I do not align becket precisely until now. But what is that tool that permit to do it fast and easy. I see no reason for not using it. Someone talked about a photo? _____ De : pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] De la part de Gerald Groot Envoyé : 2 octobre 2009 12:59 À : pianotech at ptg.org Objet : Re: [pianotech] Tuning pin height I disagree which was my point about lining things up. If one bothers to drill the holes correctly for the tuning pins, then why can't one line the beckets up as well? Laziness in my opinion. It takes no more time to line up beckets than it does to not line them up. Everything should look good and everything should work correctly as well. If we must have some give and take and often times, is some, then that's fine but to intentionally just not line things up. I don't like it. That's my opinion. From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Israel Stein Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:44 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Tuning pin height Jer writes: Looks are as important as anything else. Otherwise, why line up hammers to look right when replacing them? Or back checks? I don't think looks are all that important,(or they would have locked my up years ago), but they do indicate the care taken in a job. A rebuilder that leaves sloppy, uneven, coils will rarely do a more consistant job drilling the block, at least in my experience. I like beckets to line up because it leaves the tuning hammer in the same position from pin to pin, facilitating tuning. It also indicates a stringers ability to be consistant, which can show up in how the wire curvature is placed from string to string. There is a lot of aesthetic effort put in restoration, and an even pin field is one way pride is shown. A worker that has no pride rarely does the best work. I don't believe that Ron Nossaman - who was the first to express the opinion here that lined up beckets don't matter - can hardly be accused of "rarely doing the best work". And when rebuilding pianos in an institutional setting on salary one must always engage in triage, due to constraints on time and resources, pay attention to things that affect function and sometimes forget about one's "pride". And besides, "screw polisher" has always been a derisive term in this trade - one who bases one's pride on things that look good but matter little, instead of obsessing over things that do matter. In his original message Ron pointed out flaws in the job that do matter - for example, tuning pin drilling angle - which the person who posted the original criticism totally overlooked. Obsessing over insignificant details may sometimes prevent one from paying attention to significant ones, especially in time-sensitive situations. Two-edged sword, Ed. As far as hammers and backchecks lining up, those are elements in function, and I do think they are important, even if I allow a mm or so alteration in blow distances between hammers to even out action geometry. Precisely. Things that matter an awful lot... If lining up beckets is considered on the same level of importance as hammer and backcheck alignment - than someone has a rather screwed up value system... Israel Stein _____ avast! <http://www.avast.com> Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091001-0, 10/01/2009 Tested on: 10/2/2009 12:58:37 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.2/2408 - Release Date: 10/02/09 06:46:00 _____ Jutilise la version gratuite de SPAMfighter pour utilisateurs privés. Jusquà présent SPAMfighter a bloqué 3197 courriels spam. Nous avons en ce moment 6 millions dutilisateurs de par le monde entier. Les utlisateurs payants nont pas ce message. Vous pouvez télécharger la version gratuite <http://www.spamfighter.com/lfr> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091002/60413cfd/attachment-0001.htm>
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