[pianotech] Becket Alignment - sub-topic of Tuning pin height

David Ilvedson ilvey at sbcglobal.net
Mon Oct 5 19:17:10 MDT 2009


Israel,

Out of curosity...when someone finishes installing a string in the PTG test, what is the criteria for not having points removed?   i.e. what is the standard the test?   

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Israel Stein" <custos3 at comcast.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 10/5/2009 6:03:12 PM
Subject: [pianotech] Becket Alignment - sub-topic of Tuning pin height



>----- Original Message ----- 

>Monday, October 5, 2009 4:56:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 



>Is it really necessary to intentionally place an insult Israel? 



>You're obviously not willing to discuss this rationally and it is very obvious you miss 
>my points and completely by-pass them altogether for the sake of being right rather 
>than having an honest discussion. With that mentality, the discussion becomes 
>useless. 



>Jer Groot RPT 




>What I find insulting, Ger, is this insistence on equating lack of attention to one small 
>insignificant detail with general sloppy workmanship and lack of skill. This is an insult 
>to a whole lot of very careful, very skilled, very reputable people who happen to not 
>share your view on the terrible importance of this one detail. It's called "tarring with 
>a broad brush". So, we can keep repeating our mutual insults - each in our own way 
>- and thus continue to insult the intelligence of the memebrs of this list. Or we can 
>carefully re-read David Love's post, and a recent post by Ron Nossaman and 
>perhaps retreat from such extreme positions. 




>And for the record, Ger, every instance that you cite in your post has its origin in 
>functionality - and cosmetic appearance is a side effect. It looks nice when 
>everything is neatly trimmed and the right length and so far and so on - but the 
>more important consideration here is that bushing aren't noisy, and that there is 
>sufficient cloth surface for a solid joint to the wood - but not so much surface as to 
>cause excessive friction, and so far and so on. Which is a point that several people - 
>besides myself - have made several times, apparently for nought. And I don't think 
>anyone here is interested in me deconstructing your entire previous post along the 
>above lines - so I won't. 


>As to a more detailed analysis of the issues here as I see them, calmly and rationally 
>addressed, I will try to post when I have time in response to William Monroe's very 
>astute and relevant question posed to me by name earlier today. And those who 
>aren't interested are invited to make use of the "Delete" key. 




>Israel Stein 



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