[pianotech] weights of hammers and shanks/replacement parts

PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Sat Oct 24 13:18:37 MDT 2009


David:
 
I have to say that this is an exceedingly kind note to Julia, and  
emblematic of the kind of colloquy for which this list is designed. 
 
Thanks.
 
Paul
 
 
In a message dated 10/24/2009 2:10:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
stanwood at tiac.net writes:

Hi  Julia,

Perhaps the lowest tech way of matching hammer weights to match  
existing key weights is to dry fit clusters of sample hammers hammers  
mid-bass, mid-tenor, and mid-treble and find that weight that gives  
you down weights in the high 40's.  Check the up weights and if they  
are below 20 your friction is too high and if they are above 30 your  
friction is too low...  I say clusters because no particular key  
weighting is likely to be similar to neighbors so you have to look 
for  average levels in each of the three major sections...

Use a digital  scale accurate to 0.1 grams to measure the weights.

If you want to know  what weight level your hammer are you can refer  to:

http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/SW-HWstandards4.pdf

If you want  to measure 88 of the ready to hang hammers, look at a 
graph of the weights  using excel and come up with specifications to 
smooth out the bumps you  can go to:

http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/E-SmartChart2.4.xls

The  weight of the modern parts isn't your main concern... plenty of 
modern  pianos play beautifully... it's not the parts so much as the 
configuration  of the weight and leverages... and keep an eye on that  
friction!

It's an extensive subject and very important to our  work.... Hammer 
weight is the place to start!

Good  Luck,

David Stanwood

>Greetings,
>
>     This is the first Steinway  that I am replacing 
>hammers on. I would like to just replace what is  there. The keys 
>have 4 to 5 lead weights in the bass. I don't think I  should change 
>it.
>
>        What are  the pros and cons of just replacing parts that are 
>there vs removing  key weights and changing ratios and weights?
>
>     Is there any reading I can do to help me through this job? I  
>have replaced hammers and regulated before...on uprights, and pianos  
>like Lester grands, but I have never done a Steinway and the whole  
>weight figuring before.
>
>         When replacing hammers and shank/flange assemblies, does 
>the  weight of the shanks along with the hammer weight affect  
>downweights/upweights...or is only the hammer weight alone a factor  
>for regulation?
>
>Thank You,
>Julia  Gottshall
>Reading,  PA



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