Use the undercover. I never install anymore without one. The difference in
efficiency is too significant, I've proved it to myself.
Dean
Dean May cell 812.239.3359
PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272
Terre Haute IN 47802
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Subject: Re: [pianotech] pianotech Digest, Vol 11, Issue 33
Re.Dampp Chaser vs Moister King::
I respectfully disaggree with the initial post. My main objection to
Moisture King is its surface tempature. If you want to know of what I
speak, try this experiment.:
Take one rod from each company of equal or near equal wattage,
Plug them directly into the wall.
Wait 1/2 hour
Grasp each rod in your hand to see which is hotter
It's a good thing that Moisture King is a sturdy unit, because you will
surely drop it.
Imagine a toddler under a grand piano reaching up to touch one.
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2. Humidity Control System, was Recent parts order
( <mailto:pianoguru at cox.net> pianoguru at cox.net)
3. Re: bushings migrating (William Truitt)
4. Bench plans (Chuck Behm)
5. Re: Pounding (Paul T Williams)
6. Re: Pounding (Porritt, David)
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From:
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To:
pianotech at ptg.org
Subject:
Re: [pianotech] bushings migrating
Date:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 02:26:49 EDT
In a message dated 9/3/2009 11:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
<mailto:defaziomusic at verizon.net> defaziomusic at verizon.net writes:
I would suggest finding an experienced colleague and tackling
them20together. Just something to think about.
Joe:
How long do these colleagues remain around you after being tackled? :-)
Paul
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From:
pianoguru at cox.net
To:
pianotech at ptg.org
Subject:
[pianotech] Humidity Control System, was Recent parts order
Date:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 0:58:46 -0400
The original post of this thread was a complaint about the business practice
of
a distributor for a humidity control system, Dampp-Chaser. Many responses
suggested alternative distributors. I would suggest an alternative
manufacturer
to Dampp-Chaser, and that would be Moisture King. Although I reside within
20
miles of the Moisture King facility, I have no financial interest in that
company.
Dampp-Chaser's dehumidifier rod has a glass rod around which wire is wound
to
produce the heating element. It is quite fragile. Break the glass rod,
and the
unit is ruined. Moisture King's dehumidifier rod looks very similar, but is
not
so fragile. It is based on a patented design used by the US Navy for
dissipating condensation from sighting scopes on the big guns on battle
ships.
They are virtually indestructible, and the Moisture King products are
guaranteed
for life. This product offers better quality, greater durability, and lower
price.
The Moisture King humidistat offers the advantage of being able to adjust
the
"cut-off" humidity level. While this may not be significant to many techs,
the
cost is significantly less than the alternative.
The big failing of Moisture King is that they have no humidifying component.
The humidistat has a jack to accept a humidifier plug, but they recommend a
room
humidifier from "Walmart."
While the dehumidifiers, humidistats, and humidifiers from various
manufacturers
are interchangable, I am sure that warrantees would be voided if a DC
humidifier
were installed with a Moisture King dehumidifier and humidistat.
Be that as it may, it is my opinion that Moisture King produces a far
superior
products, at a much lower price for dehumidifiers and humidistats, but their
offerings for humidifying systems are inadequate.
Frank Emerson
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From:
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To:
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Subject:
Re: [pianotech] bushings migrating
Date:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:48:14 -0400
And if these colleagues are female, I would say that it is much better to
ASK for a date... :-)
Will Truitt
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<mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
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Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:27 AM
To: <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] bushings migr ating
In a message dated 9/3/2009 11:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
<mailto:defaziomusic at verizon.net> defaziomusic at verizon.net writes:
I would suggest finding an experienced colleague and tackling them together.
Just something to think about.
Joe:
How long do these colleagues remain around you after being tackled? :-)
Paul
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From:
Chuck Behm <behmpiano at gmail.com>
To:
pianotech at ptg.org
Subject:
[pianotech] Bench plans
Date:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:37:21 -0500
Everyone - Complete and detailed plans for building the collapsible bench
which I displayed at the Grand Rapids convention are now available from
Schaff Piano Supply. Catalog #1969. Cost is $70 for the black and white
version, $75 for color (there are a lot of pictures), which includes
shipping charges.
I've built a lot of benches over the years, and this turned out the best of
anything I've done. I believe it would be a great bench for anyone starting
out building a shop of their own. I know I could have used it 35 years ago,
when I was getting a start!
If you would like to see some sample pages, e-mail me with the request and
I'll send them out. This is written in Small Shop, Big Results format -
hopefully easy to follow.
Chuck Behm
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pianotech at ptg.org
Subject:
Re: [pianotech] Pounding
Date:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:26:12 -0500
Hi All,
Have any of you tried the Steve Brady "forearm smash?" It will quickly tell
you if your unisons are stable or not. I don't pound hard, but firmly. I
see no need to whack the keys so hard your fingers and ears hurt when you're
finished.
Best,
Paul
From:
"David Lawson Pianos" < <mailto:dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au>
dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au>
To:
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Date:
09/03/2009 06:28 PM
Subject:
[pianotech] Pounding
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For recital and concert tunings I do pound. This is of course after I have
set the pin. I am sure that no one out there is able to set every single pin
in the block so that it will not move under heavy playing, by some of our
over exuberant pianists, without pounding at least a couple of times. I feel
that to be sure that I have set correctly, a few hard hits does no harm, and
reassures me that the tuning will be stable through the entire performance.
David Lawson Wangaratta Australia
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To:
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Subject:
Re: [pianotech] Pounding
Date:
Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:30:15 -0500
Speaking of pounding and health issues, I assume everyone is using some kind
of hearing protection while tuning! Our ears are our most valuable asset in
our jobs and when they deteriorate there's no bringing them back.
dp
David M. Porritt, RPT
dporritt at smu.edu
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Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pounding
Hi All,
Have any of you tried the Steve Brady "forearm smash?" It will quickly tell
you if your unisons are stable or not. I don't pound hard, but firmly. I
see no need to whack the keys so hard your fingers and ears hurt when you're
finished.
Best,
Paul
From:
"David Lawson Pianos" < <mailto:dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au>
dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au>
To:
< <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org>
Date:
09/03/2009 06:28 PM
Subject:
[pianotech] Pounding
_____
For recital and concert tunings I do pound. This is of course after I have
set the pin. I am sure that no one out there is able to set every single pin
in the block so that it will not move under heavy playing, by some of our
over exuberant pianists, without pounding at least a couple of times. I feel
that to be sure that I have set correctly, a few hard hits does no harm, and
reassures me that the tuning will be stable through the entire performance.
David Lawson Wangaratta Australia
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