[pianotech] Stainless steel piano wire

[James Grebe]

Hi Jim,
Thanks, you always wonder what happens to a new product after people begin 
using it.
James
James Grebe Est. 1962
Piano Tuner-Technician
Creator of Custom Caster Cups
Creator of fine Writing Instruments
www.grebepiano.com
1526 Raspberry Lane
Arnold, MO 63010
(314) 608-4137
Become what you believe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stainless steel piano wire


James,

That would be me. After about 15 pianos I discontinued using it for two 
reasons;

1. It breaks more. Especially on high use pianos, AND if you don't make all 
bearing points smooth, AND apparently if you don't hold your tongue just 
right... Now, several pianos have broken no (zero) strings, but on 3 or 4 
pianos several broke a week. I finally put regular wire back on... The 
scaling may be at fault, but the owner (Juan Mas Cabre) actually did the 
scaling on several. He seems to think that we are all not treating it 
properly, but I have taken great pains to make sure I did exaclty as 
prescribed. I do think is sounds beautiful and will eventually have it's 
place in the market, but not until it is drawn "stronger" than it now is. 
There is one size (15.5) that Juan had drawn stronger ("Strong") and one 
again even stronger ("Extra strong") and that is nearly up to the strength 
of Roslau. He was on the right track, but the costs were apparently 
enormous.

2. Juan has basically abandoned me. I bought about 2k worth of wire and have 
about half of that leftover. He gave me some complete sets to sell and then 
asked me to send them back. Who knows what happened. I don't know if you can 
buy it anywhere now. Jurgen (Pianoforte supply) has some, I believe. Maybe 
Juan just had a personal problem with me, but I was left holding the goods 
with no idea why. Maybe it was personal problems... He seems to have dropped 
off the end of the earth, and me being his #1 champion left here with egg on 
my face. But at the same time I miss Juan. He is a great guy.

If you want to try it I have some for sale... (1/2 price <G>) I still use it 
ocassionally for pianos that aren't played a lot. It has a far superior 
sound (IMO) and our science guys (at BYU) did some spectrum studies on it 
and it is quite different that other wire. I just don't trust it with "high 
profile" players. All I will use it on is my own pianos and a few that 
belong to friends that I will basically work on for free, if one breaks. 
Funny thing is that none ever break on these, but on the practice room 
pianos is where I've had major problems. There are 5 others (some on this 
line) who have horror stories to share.

Hope that answers your questions.

Jim Busby
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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
James Grebe [jamesgrebe at charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:21 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: [pianotech] Stainless steel piano wire

Just looking through the June , 2001 journal and saw the ad from
www.puresound-wire extolling the benefits of stainless steel wire .  Do not
know if it is still around,  Anyone out there who used it and how did it
turn out.
James
James Grebe Est. 1962
Piano Tuner-Technician
Creator of Custom Caster Cups
Creator of fine Writing Instruments
www.grebepiano.com
1526 Raspberry Lane
Arnold, MO 63010
(314) 608-4137
Become what you believe=