Do you mean to say that you would you regulate it for free? 8>P It can certainly be made to "play" without a "full regulation", and frankly, judging by a lot of the owners of the pianos I tune, "made to play" is quite sufficient. Certainly I'd prefer to provide a full (price) regulation, and that is certainly what I would try to sell. These pianos are 16-20 years old, and probably haven't gotten anything since new delivery, except of course the de-regulation in attempts to make it play because of tech(s) didn't know about the bracket problem. Paul Bruesch Stillwater, MN On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at att.net>wrote: > Do you mean to say that you would walk away from this job if the customer > agrees to anything less than a full regulation? > > > ***TODD PIANO WORKS* > Matthew Todd, Piano Technician > (979) 248-9578 > http://www.toddpianoworks.com > > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, paul bruesch <paul at bruesch.net>* wrote: > > > From: paul bruesch <paul at bruesch.net> > > Subject: Re: [pianotech] YC brackets > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 3:03 AM > > > By not mentioning the $200 to the customer? It really doesn't cover any > more than the following: > > - The visit to ascertain that the brackets are defective > - The time spent ordering them > - Run the the hardware store for the new screws > - The trip back to the client and the time installing them > - Installing may include raising bedding screws and/or breaking the old > brackets to get the action out in the first place. If you raise the bedding > screws, you need to re-bed the keyframe, which of course is part of a > regulation, anyhow. > > If they want the piano to play, it has to be completely regulated, and it's > not a DIY job! > > Paul Bruesch > Stillwater, MN > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at att.net<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toddpianoworks@att.net> > > wrote: > >> Hi Dean, >> >> How in the heck do you get a customer to pay for a complete regulation in >> this situation? Young Chang pays you $200, but that is pocket change >> compared to a complete regulation/repairs, etc. >> >> ***TODD PIANO WORKS* >> Matthew Todd, Piano Technician >> (979) 248-9578 >> http://www.toddpianoworks.com >> >> >> --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Dean May <deanmay at pianorebuilders.com<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Dean May <deanmay at pianorebuilders.com<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> >> > >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] YC brackets >> To: pianotech at ptg.org<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org> >> Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:32 AM >> >> Contact person at Young Chang: John Chang, and can be reached at >> 866-798-6979, ext. 144 Jchang at ycapiano.com<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Jchang@ycapiano.com> >> >> >> >> All action brackets are dimensionally the same except for the foot length > of the middle brackets. The outside brackets are all the same. So measure > your middle brackets and count how many you need (some are 2, some are 3). > > > > End bracket: a little over 8 inches (205 mm) > > Long middle bracket: 6 5/8 inches (170 mm) > > Short middle bracket: 5 3/4 inches (140 mm) > > > > Count on doing a completely complete regulation. > > > > Young Chang North America > > 19060 S Dominguez Hills Dr > > Rancho Dominguez CA 90220 > > 866-798-6979 > > > > > > > *Dean*** > Dean W May (812) 235-5272 > PianoRebuilders.com (888) DEAN-MAY > Terre Haute IN 47802 > ------------------------------ > > *From:* pianotech-bounces at ptg.org<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech-bounces@ptg.org>[mailto: > pianotech-bounces at ptg.org<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech-bounces@ptg.org>] > *On Behalf Of *pmc033 at earthlink.net<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pmc033@earthlink.net> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:06 AM > *To:* pianotech at ptg.org<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org> > *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] YC brackets > > > > Hi, Les: > > I've done a bunch of these. Be careful getting the action out, since > the hammers may be up too high to clear the pinblock. If the drop screws > bury into the pinblock, you may have to break/cut the brackets. Usually the > glide bolts are set to raise the frame quite a bit, so you may be able to > raise the bolts if necessary to release the action. The replacement > procedure is pretty easy, but you'll have to set the spread using calipers > or whatever. The newer model YC's spread is 113.5mm, but I can't recall > which serial #'s those are. You can call the service dept. and ask for > their advice. Check your resource guide for their number, as I don't have > it handy. You should be able to get the brackets for free, and they will > offer some compensation, but it's not much. You'll have to charge the > customer for re-regulating the piano, especially if you had to move the > glide bolts to get the action out. You'll need some longer screws to mount > the stack, since the new bracket feet will be taller than the old ones. > Just plug and redrill. Often, a previous technician has adjusted the letoff > buttons to compensate for blocking hammers. Most likely you'll be screwing > all the letoff dowels back up quite a ways to get the action to work again. > It's not hard. If you can regulate an action, it's a piece of cake. > > Good luck and have fun. > > Paul McCloud > > San Diego > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Leslie Bartlett<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l-bartlett@sbcglobal.net> > > *To: *pianotech at ptg.org<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org> > > *Sent:* 04/22/2010 6:09:50 AM > > *Subject:* [pianotech] YC brackets > > > > I would appreciate hearing from someone with a good bit of experience with > YC bracket replacement. I did ONE several years ago, with only modest > success. It s been a very long time since I have seen this piano, and am > not even sure the action will come out. I m in need of sage advice. > > Thanks, > > Les Bartlett > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100422/2e678445/attachment.htm>
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