Does Joe Garrett still sell that 3X Chrome hide glue? I've been using that for 10 years now and it is fabulous. The first hide glue I purchased was indeed from Schaff and I could not get it to mix. This 3X Chrome stuff dissolves in ten minutes or so - so easy. I just cover it with water, heat it up and it is liquid. If too thick for my application, just add a little water. If you goof and it gets too thin, just add a little more glue and wait a few minutes for it to dissolve. I is very easy to use and seems to work great. I don't know what weight it is. Terry Farrell On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Ron Nossaman wrote: > Andrew Anderson wrote: >> I've been searching my mailbox and can't find anything this specific. >> I've heard how great working with hide glue is, so I bought a mini >> slow cooker and the glue, now what? >> proportions? what is the urea for? etc. >> Andrew Anderson (hide-glue rook) > > Hi Andrew, > First, where'd you get the glue, and what's the gram strength? > Here's something I posted on the subject 7 months ago. > > > More about hot hide glue, since this part has never been discussed > here to my recollection. > > Hide glue comes in different gram strengths. In practical terms, > it's a measure of the ultimate strength and gel rate of the glue. > Most people start with too high a gram strength and shoot themselves > in the foot. Those who say they found hot hide to be unmanageable > usually bought it from Schaff. Theirs is 370-399 gram, which I > consider to be impossible for general use. Pianotek sells a 251 gram > weight, which is manageable, but still touchy for general work. I > prefer 192 gram. It's a balancing act between thickness and gel > time. For hammers, particularly, you want a fairly thick glue that > won't "string", and will still gel before it runs down into the > hammer tail cove. The high gram weights are super critical of water > content for this use. Thin enough to not string means too thin to > gel in time to not sag. The 251g has a wide enough operating range, > and is quite usable for hammer hanging since you can get a quick gel > and minimum sag with a mix that's not too thick to use. I find it > too much for player and felt work though. Add enough water to make > it usable covering pneumatics, and the initial tack isn't good > enough to let you move on without standing around holding things and > waiting for the glue to grab. The 192g is good enough for hammer > hanging, and much better for player and felt work. It can be mixed > thick enough for hammers, with a gel time that works, without > stringing glue, and thin enough for player and felt work without > losing the initial tack that lets you get on with it. > > Dries brittle, scrapes easily, softens with heat and moisture. That, > everyone already knows. > > And no, I don't use urea. I bought some to play with, but haven't > needed to yet. > > Mix consistency (water added) determined by trying it and adjusting > as necessary. > Ron N
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