Hey all---wonderful to see those of you I saw in my quick trip to Vegas....lotta amazing pianos there....lotta love. Here's my take: I like it better to tune aurally. It makes me feel better. I prefer it. It empowers me and makes me proud of my skills. It's a big challenge every time, and I'm intrinsically kind of wierdly lazy and passive, and I need the challenge. I'm always curious about how good I can make this piano sound solving the puzzle myself...BUT THAT'S JUST ME. Many of my most beloved and respected (by me) colleagues use ETDs because the above is exactly true for them WHEN they use the ETD as a tool and focusing device, as an adjunct to their skill. Beautiful. I don't care how you get there. I just want to hear a GREAT tuning at the end. Very simple. Scoreboard, baby. How does it sound? DA On Jul 3, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Ron Nossaman wrote: > Don wrote: >> Hi Ron, >> Yes, it is one of the ideas that exist. However the ETD takes time to >> measure and calculate that over pull--so super fast doesn't fall >> within >> their province. > > Hi Don, > That has been my observation, which is why a lot of the "pitch" for > ETD use never made much sense to me. For years, I heard techs say "I > have one, but I can out-tune it". I've seen tens of thousands of > words go by on the pianotech and caut lists about the compensations, > workarounds, myriad provisional dodges, tweaks, and general coddling > necessary to get the most out of these machines that everyone > claimed to be able to out-tune, but used anyway. Eventually, this > all somehow condensed down to "less stress". Really! It's only very > recently that I've heard techs say they like their ETD because they > can do better tuning with it than they can aurally. That, at last, > makes sense to me. I still hear techs say ETD use produces faster > tunings, but I've never seen anyone using an ETD that moved along > any quicker than a decent aural tuner. Maybe that's just a "baby > pigeon" sort of thing, and I just haven't looked in the right place. > Repeatability, I think, is the truly golden part. > > >> Accurate usually, but--not always. I just did a 9 foot that was 5 >> to 21 >> cents sharp. When I finished it was 3 cents flat, so I had to tune >> it a >> second time "on my dime". It had been tuned twice in the previous >> two weeks >> and has a damppchaser system. Do you suppose the last tuner just >> didn't >> bother with A440? He uses an ETD, because he must. (translation >> poor aural >> skills) > > How does one not bother with A440 with an ETD? I've seen pianos go > out like this when the DC was unplugged, or plugged in after they > were tuned. > > >> There were several keys where repetition was a problem (jacks) due >> to some >> one elses idea of regulation. All in all I was "at" the piano for 3.5 >> hours--a new record of slowness for me. > > Just needs a little touch up, right? How bad can it be, it was just > tuned... > > The horror, the horror. > Ron N -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100703/26244e60/attachment.htm>
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