Interesting. I've come across quite a few Brambach's over the years. I've not yet seen one with a plate failure. The one I have now is suffering from severe rim delamination, though. (Of course, it's been sitting out in front of the store building serving as a planter for three winters-we're taking bets on whether it will last a fourth.) I'd still tackle the project under the conditions of my original post and for the same reasons. Since I'd be dropping the tensions some I can't see how I'd have a problem. The whole point, of course, is that in the normal course of events these things are not worthy of consideration for the scenario I described. If they were worthy they would, by definition, be disqualified. And I still think it would be interesting to compare the results with those "better" pianos costing upwards of $55K. If this conversation continues I might have to track the thing down and buy it myself. (And look for an apprentice at the same time..) ddf Delwin D Fandrich Piano Design & Fabrication 620 South Tower Avenue Centralia, Washington 98531 USA del at fandrichpiano.com ddfandrich at gmail.com Phone 360.736.7563 From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:10 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brambach to rebuild? Well.... we had two in our small area. One would be a fluke and two is a red flag for future consideration. That's how I see it. Beside there are many other candidates far more worthy of this hypothetical scenario being considered. You Know? Dale S. Erwin www.Erwinspiano.com Custom piano restoration Ronsen piano hammers-sales R & D and tech support Sitka soundboard panels 209-577-8397 209-985-0990 -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Sowers <tunerryan at gmail.com> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 5:12 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brambach to rebuild? I do not remember that Brambach's were known for plate failure. That would certainly make one hesitate before taking a project on. Perhaps it would be an argument for lowering the overall tension on the piano. I wonder if the plate problems were a result of a design issue or a casting issue? Or both? How many of these have you actually come across in your years of rebuilding? Is it enough to make a broad generalization? We sometimes have to be careful about extrapolating from a limited sample: There were many hundreds of thousands of these pianos produced. On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Dale Erwin <erwinspiano at aol.com> wrote: Yeah, I take the point but but my point is that with out the plate... its a pile of firewood with a piano shaped boat anchor attached. Yes one needs a nose to work on or a piano ;) Dale S. Erwin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20101115/7a513d2b/attachment-0001.htm>
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