[pianotech] Plate finish problems

Greg Newell gnewell at ameritech.net
Fri Nov 19 16:16:34 MST 2010


Dale,

                We should get this guy to do a class at the convention! He’s really quite good!!!

 

Greg Newell

Greg's Piano Forté

www.gregspianoforte.com

216-226-3791 (office)

216-470-8634 (mobile)

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:32 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Plate finish problems

 

Now were talking!
  Thanks Greg,

 

 

Dale S. Erwin
www.Erwinspiano.coms

Dale,

                Here’s what I received back from Greg Williams, the finish and touch up teacher from Mohawk.

 

Greg, for a quick answer without asking for more detail from him; there are automotive products such as Feather Fill (by Evercoat), a number by Bondo and other vendors that will do the filling with the requisite adhesion to a well prepared substrate. It is important to have an unbroken final primer coat after the level is done.  That is, when you have done all of the filling and sanding to level, a final primer coat will be applied and sanded smooth without breaking through to a subcoat.  No more spot filling is to be done at this point.  If additional spot filling is necessary, you will need to apply another full coverage primer coat.

 

I would use catalyzed (requiring a hardener) products to avoid subsequent shrinking from the evaporation of solvents found in air dry products. Look through this website for more hints

 <http://www.evercoat.com/productCategory.aspx?cat=2> http://www.evercoat.com/productCategory.aspx?cat=2 

 

There are pourable polyester and epoxy filler/primer/feathering products available from automotive refinishing suppliers.  I imagine that extensive sanding will be necessary regardless of how the product is applied in order to get a really good looking final finish. 

 

I hope this is helpful. I enjoyed talking with you in the class. 

 

          Greg Williams

    wood finishing specialist

          since 1971

          Hampton, GA

         770.853.5364

  

 

 

Greg Newell

Greg's Piano Forté

 <http://www.gregspianoforte.com> www.gregspianoforte.com

216-226-3791 (office)

216-470-8634 (mobile)

 

From:  <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:15 AM
To:  <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Plate finish problems

 

Thanks Ron/Terry/ Al/ Greg and all who responded with suggestions.
  Ron...To be clear I wasn't about to leave any of the old finish on.  Ever things gotta go before the primer/magic wand/ filler/whatever is employed.  I wonder if the original japanning process is difficult or that specialized that it couldn't be replicated for plate jobs.
  Just think blast the crap off every plate and then pour on the japanning and start over. 
  Something else to add to my wish list along with a keyboard pounder.

 

 

Dale S. Erwin

 

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