[pianotech] Re-pinning

[William Monroe]

To clarify, I wrote:

"My pins come out in about 2 seconds with an impact wrench, and there is
hardly ANY discernable heat."  The pins will be warm, but the block will
not.

William R. Monroe

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, William Monroe <bill at a440piano.net> wrote:

> Many manufacturers won't replace the piano for a low-torque pin-block.  The
> suggestion is that the block is fine, but the holes were drilled too large
> not entirely unreasonable.  I don't think that we can categorically call the
> pin block bad because of loose pins, especially if it's every pin.  So,
> quite often the best you can do is get oversize pins from them and have them
> cover the re-pinning costs.  Or walk away.  As far as restringing as well, I
> think it's not unreasonable to ask for that too, but I wouldn't hold my
> breath that they'll cover it.  Better to ask up front though.
>
> Again, I would say though, remove the pins at high speed.  Less heat will
> be created zipping the pins out quickly than by the long slow turning
> process, excepting if you turn obscenely slowly.  My pins come out in about
> 2 seconds with an impact wrench, and there is hardly ANY discernable heat.
>
> William R. Monroe
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:16 PM, <reggaepass at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> If you are not comfortable with restringing the piano on a factory quality
>> level, get an estimate from someone you trust and see if Schimmel will cover
>> it.
>>
>> If the will, that would be a great learning opportunity on someone else's
>> nickel, and not even your responsibility!
>>
>>  Alan Eder
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mario <mario at pianosinsideout.com>
>> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Sent: Thu, Oct 28, 2010 9:57 am
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Re-pinning
>>
>>  Schimmel won't like this, but I would ask for a replacement piano. Or
>> let *them* replace the pinblock/pins/strings. If the owner insists
>> on having the issue dealt with locally, I wouldn't accept replacing tuning
>> pins without also replacing the strings. Those beckets may start breaking 10
>> years from now because you stressed them as you took them off.
>>
>> If you are not comfortable with restringing the piano on a factory quality
>> level, get an estimate from someone you trust and see if Schimmel will cover
>> it.
>>
>> To prevent the tuning pins from scorching the pinblock holes either use a
>> brace or get a beefy, high torque drill and extract the pins at very low
>> speed.
>>
>> Mario Igrec
>>
>>
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