[pianotech] [Pianotek] the big discussion

John Formsma formsma at gmail.com
Tue Feb 1 20:19:09 MST 2011


David,

I was meaning 4ths in general, and 5ths in general. If one makes all the
temperament 4ths too pure, it will make all the fifths too narrow. John Ross
said his 4ths were "too pure" -- not narrow. My example presupposes that a
person knows that 4ths must be somewhere on the wide side, and fifths must
be somewhere on the narrow side.

--
JF

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:35 PM, David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>wrote:

> Uh, no.  Fourths are wide and fifths are narrow.  If the C3-F3 fourth is
> too narrow it will be more perfect and then the F3-C4 fifth will be too wide
> and also more perfect.
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> David Love
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> www.davidlovepianos.com
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> *From:* pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On
> Behalf Of *John Formsma
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:21 PM
> *To:* pianotech at ptg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] [Pianotek] the big discussion
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> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:15 PM, John Ross <jrpiano at eastlink.ca> wrote:
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> When I tried the aural portion, I failed. They told me my 4ths and 5ths
> were too pure.
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> Now if I were a customer wanting a tuning, would I choose an ETD tuner with
> a 95.7% average for the exam, or an aural person, who for arguments sake
> passed with an 80%.
>
> Just throwing this out, and I know it is late in the thread.
>
> John Ross
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> Just FYI, you can't have both pure 4ths and pure 5ths in an equal
> temperament. They are mutually exclusive. With purer 4ths, the 5ths are
> narrower (beat faster). With purer 5ths, the 4ths are wider (beat faster).
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> If you had some 5ths and some 4ths pure .... well, that would not be what
> would pass the test. It could be any number of different sounds, depending
> on what was pure ... and where.
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> --
> JF
>
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