Consider also phase changes! On 19 March 2011 08:50, bergpiano <dan at bergpiano.com> wrote: > Del, > > It could be the waves returning to the player from the room. If the waves > interact all kinds of things can happen. Each room will have it's character > as well. Once those waves hit the air who knows what is happening. > Refelective sound is very complex. > > > Dan Berg > Berg Piano Services > 407-884-1814 > http://bergpiano.com > Your Home For Piano Help > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Delwin D Fandrich <del at fandrichpiano.com> > *To:* pianotech at ptg.org > *Sent:* Friday, March 18, 2011 3:14 AM > *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] What is bloom, > > Yes, well, I continue to wonder just what it is that we’re actually > hearing. Below is an idealized illustration of what is happening at, and > following, hammer impact. (It’s a little more idealized than I would like > but I don’t have any of my own on this computer. This one is borrowed from > the Five Lectures website.)The hammer strikes the strings at about 3 sec. > There is a chaotic spike immediately following (the period of chaos is > typically a bit wider than shown here). The sound immediately begins to > decay at some fairly rapid rate but, for this note, at around 5 sec. the > rate of decay changes. > > *[image: Description: Description: Fig 1. Typical decay of a piano tone as > illustrated by the sound pressure level versus time (Eb3 = 311 Hz). The > decay process is divided into two parts; an initial attack part with a fast > decay (prompt sound) followed by a sustained part with slow decay > (aftersound).]*** > > From what I’ve been able to figure out, the knee (at around 5 or 6 sec.) is > where the strings vibration pattern changes from a predominately transverse > motion (perpendicular to the bridge) to a more random, or rotational > pattern. The note is still dying out but at a slower rate. It continues thus > until the sound dies out or, as in this illustration, the damper drops. > > In all the samples I’ve recorded and studied over the years I’ve never seen > the sound level increase after hammer impact and that first chaotic wave > pattern. They all end up looking like some variation of this. More ragged > and uneven sometimes but they follow this generally pattern. > > It leaves me wondering if what we think we hear as “bloom” isn’t at least > partially—perhaps predominately—psychoacoustic. Our ears—or our brain’s > interpretation of what our ears detect—quickly become accustomed to that > rapid drop-off following the chaotic hammer impact and, when the waveform > gets to the knee and the decay rate slows (sometimes dramatically) we > interpret the change as “bloom.” > > > > ddf > > Delwin D Fandrich > > Piano Design & Fabrication > > 6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA > > Phone 360.736.7563 — Cell 360.388.6525 > > del at fandrichpiano.com <del at fandrichpiano.com%20>— ddfandrich at gmail.com > > > > *From:* pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On > Behalf Of *Dale Erwin > *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 5:20 PM > *To:* pianotech at ptg.org > *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] What is bloom, > > > > Del > Understood. I can't measure it empirically either. Fortunately we can > hear it. > > -- Bruce Browning The Piano Tuner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20110320/2998f9c7/attachment-0001.htm> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 12657 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20110320/2998f9c7/attachment-0001.gif>
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