[pianotech] Replacing dampers on a 1908 Steinway Upright

[Encore Pianos]

The Tokiwa kit or equivalent is superior in damping to the original design.
The original dampers are too small to damp as effectively as the longer bass
and tenor dampers of the kit.  The new Steinway upright dampers are longer
than the old for that reason and damp better.

Will Truitt  

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Joseph Garrett
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:57 PM
To: pianotech
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Replacing dampers on a 1908 Steinway Upright

Terri the Uni-Geezer asked: 
"I"m replacing worn hammers and *dampers* on a client's old Steinway
upright, circa 1908. Having never replaced dampers on this particular model,
I was unaware that--apparently--replacing dampers on this piano is a
NIGHTMARE, and one of the most difficult damper jobs of ANY piano, either
upright or grand. Is this true? This gloomy scenario was communicated to me
by a tech who works at a local piano supply house, but I'd rather not
mention who. 
 
I was told that the felts, especially the treble, are 'tapered' and that you
must "peel little layers off as you work your way up", or they won't lift
properly, and won't dampen correctly. Basically I was told that ALL the
dampers are almost impossible to get right with modern day replacements,
without significant modification. Pics attached are from the action showing
the dampers. I would appreciate ANY advice the forum member may have, and
what you might suggest, short of declining the job!
 
PS: Brooks LTD told me that the Tokiwa TDVK damper kit (pic also attached)
would work well. Your thoughts on this would also be appreciated."
 
Terry "UniGeezer" Peterson,

Replicating is far less difficult than climbing that big-ass hill!<G> So,
suck it up and reproduce exactly what is there. If you do not have the
necessary damper felt, (in strips and sets), the Guillotine cutter, Hot Glue
Pot and other assorted tools necessary to that job, get them or farm it out
to someone who can do the job correctly. The Tokiwa set may work.
Then again, maybe not. I've done several of these actions.. They ARE the
most difficult to work on, IMHO, so meticulous work is required. OR, you
will have the biggest nightmare of your piano loving career. (I've had to
clean up the mess of others that did not take this advice...not a fun gig
fer sur.) However, this is a worthy effort, since the Steinway Uprights of
that design/era were, IMO, some of the best, ever. Yes, they are cranky
critters, but the end result can be extremely gratifying/satisfying.
So........Go For It Big Uni-Geezer Dude!<G> Best, Joe P.S.
If you need specific help, feel free to call me.


Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I