[pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts:OT RANT

[Encore Pianos]

Hi Dale:

 

I didn’t say perfect, I said better than what we see today and a better period overall.  And it is a factory nonetheless.  And they have always done some things I have never understood why, such as the way they fit the pinblock to the plate in the case.   And how they fit the action to that.

 

Will

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dale Erwin
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:32 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts:OT RANT

 


Wow,...But Will
 That don't explain both the  Bs on my web site that got equal action treatments to cure the 6 leads in the bass etc inertia syndrome...and lots up the  scale. Capstan moves, Knuckles moved. Hammer weights moderate.
 On the 1930 I moved the action forward 1 mm or so as well. High ratios in the 6.5 ish region. Must of been rookies at work I suppose.? 

Dale Erwin... RPT
Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos
 <http://www.Erwinspiano.com> www.Erwinspiano.com
209-577-8397

 
  

 

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Subject: Re: [pianotech] Gen-u-whine Steinway parts:OT RANT

Not really, this subject could turn into War and Peace, couldn’t it?  J  But, fair enough.

 .  The 20’s was likely a time when the factory had worked hard to evolve these standards and really had their shit together.  Rebuilding those pianos seemed easier to get a pleasing result in my experience, because so many things were set up well originally.  Steinways from the 1940’s on are quite a different animal in these respects.

 

 

 

Will   

 

From:  <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love
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I have to some degree in several previous conversations including in the discussion recently published in the PTJ on tone.  It’s a loaded subject and I don’t want to delve too deeply into it at the moment.  For now, I hope it will suffice to say that I think one needs to approach design changes with caution.  BTW that goes for Steinway too.  I don’t think all the changes they’ve made over the decades have been a benefit and often (at least from my view) seem to have been done in isolation without looking at the whole picture.   If the 1920’s pianos were the design and execution pinnacle for them (as some believe) then they’ve gravitated away from that but piecemeal, not with a total concept in mind but just with certain individual changes.  They haven’t always been integrated well and haven’t always made sense.  Separating the design intention from the execution is difficult at times but we ultimately have to take them at their word.  What the produce(d) is(was) what they intended.  

 

Cryptic enough?

 

btw, on an unrelated topic, have you noticed how this discussion is taking place in two different places, the new list and the old list?  Many who read only one or the other are getting only half the discussion.  What a mess.  

 

 

David Love

 <http://www.davidlovepianos.com> www.davidlovepianos.com

 

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“The more pianos I rebuild (bellies and actions) and the more I have been involved with design changes, the more I gravitate back to the original concept (with tweaks of course).”  

 

Would you care to elaborate on this a bit more?

 

Will Truitt

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