[pianotech] Thumpe returns... and the shellac on old plates.....

[Dale Erwin]

Yes, Thump
I have been testing one of your felt cutters from Jurgen for a while.  Heck of a nice device.
Dale



Dale Erwin... RPT
 Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S pianos
www.Erwinspiano.com
209-577-8397

 
  





From: Tom Driscoll <tomtuner at verizon.net>
To: Euphonious Thumpe <lclgcnp at yahoo.com>; pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Thumpe returns... and the shellac on old plates.....


Thumpmeister ,
    The man has returned! 
How about a bit of shameless marketing with that felt cutter? Show it off and post a price. This is your target market group.
      Best wishes,
 Tom Driscoll 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   Euphonious   Thumpe 
  
To: joegarrett at earthlink.net ; pianotech at ptg.org   
  
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 8:08   PM
  
Subject: [pianotech] Thumpe returns...   and the shellac on old plates.....
  


  
  
To Most Esteemed High Captain of Tool Police, De-Luxe:
  
 
  
   Hast been off-list for 2.5 years because yahoo started   bouncing these posts ( probably because I had about 50,000 emails backed up in   my inbox) and then the Pianotech server apparently got fed up and evicted me.   But after I cleared my inbox, repeated entreaties to be put back   were ignored. ( Because of some personal animosity on the part of the   then-moderator?) But I tried again last week and......VOILA! Glad to be   back!!! ( And a super-extra-special-big-thanx to whomever it is who let me   rejoin! THANK YOU!!!)  
  
 
  
     On to bizness: dab some denatured alcohol   on an old plate and see what happens. (Only shellac melts with it, as I'm sure   you know.) Actually, I never did this; but surmised it was shellac because I   use "Purple Power" (diluted) to clean old plates. ("Super-Clean" clone--- but   without the lye in it "Super-Clean" now apparently has, that leaves   a stink behind ---- consider yourself warned!) And noticed that what came   off LOOKED like old shellac. (Dark orange- brown stuff, leaving the plate   bright-and-shiny gold colored.) I've also used such cleaners on old shellac,   and they do, in fact, dissolve it. (But leave a tinge because of the   purple dye in them, if used on wood. So am about to try some stuff---   "Spray-66" has been recommended --- from a restuarant supply store, because it   has far less dye.) In light concentrations, these concentrated soaps will just   clean the dirt off old plates. Slightly heavier, they will remove the   dirt and some of the shellac. Full strength, they will take everything   off right on down to the black "Japaning". ( Which I believe is a form of   coal-tar emulsion, or asphalt.) I also have a very intelligent acquaintance   who agrees with me completely about shellac having been used as the vehicle   for the bronzing, after coming to the same conclusion indepoendently. (   And shellac does not get brittle for weeks after applying.) He says he has had   great results by attempting to replicate this plate-finishing method,   but I'd like to find a "modern" substitute that works as well. (So I'm   now off to read the last week's posts. Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!) 
  
 
  
Much Peace,
  
Euphonious Thumpe
  
 
  
P.S. (By the Grace of God) I've devised a felt cutter that is   super-accurate (to thousandths), quick ( I can cut a set of backchecks from a   strip in about 3 minutes) and uses replaceable blades. I may start   producing and selling them, or do it through collaboration with one of   the supply houses.  
  
P.P.S In my small, low production, one-man shop, I've generally used   Pianotek's spray cans for plate "gilding", but have found DEFT in spray cans   to be by far the best top coat to use, because it does not disturb the   bronzing anywhere  nearly as much as all the other top-coats I've   tried.

  
  
  
  
From: Joseph Garrett   <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>   
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012   4:04 PM
Subject: Re:   [pianotech] Plate refinishing


The Thumper(!) said:   
"Plates were originally finished with shellac as the base ( with   bronze
powder in it) which takes a?long time to become brittle. Hence no   chipping."
Euphonious Thumpe

Thumper! 
Where hast thou been??   <G> Now to the subject: Where prey tell did you get
that bit of bull   pucky?
Regards,
Joe aka Curmudgeon
Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of   the Tool Police
Squares R I






 
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