[pianotech] Stretch in tuning

[Leslie Bartlett]

I really wish all the ETD people would somehow find ways that exact replicas
of each other's tunings could conveniently be made. As ETD's increase more
and more this issue of compatibility will become more and more significant.
Some of us old creatures aren't up to really fancy manipulation of programs,
but I suspect would be very interested in knowing.  "Accurate" actually
becomes fuzzy as the ETD's grow and yet don't agree with each other on
specifics of tunings.  I think it is going to be an issue and hope it will
soon be given more consideration.

As to the hearing, I think all "older" technicians should have their hearing
checked every year.  Now retired Avery Todd is to blame for me being in
hearing aids. I did some tunings for him at U of H, and he never liked my
highest and lowest notes.  So, I went to an audiologist, and was very
quickly in hearing aids.  As one loses the tops of the hearing range, their
"stretching" is going to shrink and octaves will lose stretch.  I've been in
hearing aids for about six years now, and soon will have to consider my
third pair......  I still have a number of very high end clients, and though
my loss is considered "moderate", I'd still risk an aural tuning with my
hearing aids.  So, as a second point to this post- please put hearing a high
priority on your agendas.  I often can tell by my machine if the previous
tuner has been aural, and also can tell when they've begun to have hearing
loss.   I have several of those high end people I remind that I am trusting
them to tell me when I begin to lose my ability to do the work. I've
followed a very few who should have either been with hearing aids or should
have quit a few years ago.  It's a very sad experience.  Hearing CAN be
aided a great deal- not totally fixed but aided, and one can still do high
quality work with hearing aids...........   hope the little "rant" doesn't
seem to much- but I'm living successfully with hearing issues, and so can
others.
Les Bartlett 
Houston

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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Duaine Hechler
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:05 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Stretch in tuning

On 05/25/2012 07:01 PM, David Lawson wrote:
> This is a subject that has haunted me for ever. We all know that piano
tuning is subjected to all sorts of rights and 
> wrongs, as there are so many opinions out there. The stretching of octaves
is,(as you say), during get togethers, 
> mentioned in passing, and then dropped. I often follow up on other tuner's
work, which in most cases is of quality, 
> and find that they have streched the treble far more that I would have.
Having mentioned this to some of my fellow 
> techs. they have suggested that as you get older you lose a little in the
treble tuning. If this is the case, it 
> brings one to consider, is it just me, or is it entirely subject to
individual opinion. I am an aural tuner and do not 
> own an ETD. I am over 70 years of age too, which may have something to do
with the mystery of correct stretching of 
> octaves.  I understand that ETD build in stretching. Does this facility
take into consideration of the idiosyncrasies 
> of the indivual instrument like the human ear?
> David Lawson
> OZ
>
Well, IMHO, at least Cybertuner does. Because before you start tuning, you
sample all the A's, which no only tells how 
far off the tuning is, but also registers the inharmonicity, etc. Plus
allows - 9 - standard settings for stretch as 
well as allowing for custom settings. Plus, also, allows for setting to
listening to certain partials.

http://www.reyburn.com/innovations.html

Duaine

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