[pianotech] 102 keys and 4 pedals???

[Encore Pianos]

Ok, thanks.  Ron:

So the lack of stiffness in the panel is what creates both the "zingy"
distortions and the flaccid sound of the board, in your estimation?  

Would this be equally true for both the Stuart and the Steingraeber?  The
boards on the two seem to be considerably different and the Steingraeber
substantially more stiff, both from the spruce ribbing and the carbon fiber
- spruce hybrid panel.  It's easier to see that occurring in the Stuart
given its insubstantiality.  

The Steingraeber has an adjustable vertical hitch pin, so bearing can be
changed with relative ease.  I did wonder if increasing the downbearing
would have brought a more dynamic sound and improved the tone of that
instrument.  

It would be very interesting to be able to quantify what is there in terms
of bearing, crown, rib and panel thickness, etc. so that I could have some
numbers to correlate to what I was hearing.

Will 



-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 6:09 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] 102 keys and 4 pedals???

On 11/4/2012 4:13 PM, Encore Pianos wrote:
> Hi Ron:
>
> I certainly meant no offense to you or anyone else  by using the term 
> propeller head, I did not mean it to be a derogatory term.

Hi Will,
I know you didn't. I just don't like the term and consider it derogatory
whatever the intent. I still have the rocks, in any case.


> I would be grateful if you could describe to me exactly what you mean when
> you speak of a classic overdriven soundboard.

In a bad killer octave, when you hit it hard the tone falls apart into a 
nasty distortion, though it's probably just fine at low attack levels. 
This is because the board isn't stiff enough in that area. The Stuart 
exhibits that distortion over most, if not all of the scale for the same 
reason.



>I would like to know what you
> mean rather than what I  think you mean, so I hope you will elaborate more
> fully.

Huh? I never have said what someone else thought I meant, only what I 
meant. <G>


> The recordings I have heard of this piano have always left me with the
> feeling that it sounds like a soundboard that has no downbearing, which
> seems to be true.

And in a conventional CC board, downbearing increases stiffness, so that 
equates. Only it's not the lack of down bearing per se, but the lack of 
stiffness, whatever the cause, that is the problem.

Ron N