[pianotech] Possible adaptation for the Tuning Exam

[Paul McCloud]

Duaine:
Aren't pitch forks for baling hay?
If you use pitch forks, tone bars or whatever, the result will be close, but no cigar.  You will still have to tweak the result to account for stretching the octaves.  The temperament is the foundation for the rest of the piano, so any discrepancy will be amplified as you tune the rest of the piano.  Just as accuracy is absolutely necessary for stable and clean unisons, accuracy is absolutely required in setting the temperament octave.  Even if you can set each note exactly to the forks, the result will not be close enough to produce an acceptable tuning.  Just go get a chromatic tuner (cheaper, easier to use) and try it for yourself.  Tune the whole piano using the chromatic tuner and see what happens.  Or, buy the forks and do it that way.  I guarantee you will wish you had used your ETD instead.  It won't sound right because it won't account for the stretch needed in piano tuning.
Paul McCloud
San Diego
(Tuning orally for 24 years with my SAT I) 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Duaine Hechler" <dahechler at att.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:24:42 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Possible adaptation for the Tuning Exam

OK, forget about the pitch pipe or an ETD, what would be wrong will setting the temperament with "certified" pitch forks ?

Duaine

On 11/10/2012 09:40 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:
> According to your words, "(If) There is nothing wrong with using a ETD" then
> what is the use of aurally setting the
> temperament for the test ?
>
> I ask again, why not change the test to put the emphasis on testing for
> stability and unisons ?????
>
> Duaine
>
> Now you're doing the same thing you got mad at us for. You asked why you can't use the pitch pipe to set the 
> temperament. Several of us gave you the reason , and I asked you to do your own experiment. But now you're turning 
> this into an argument for only using an ETD on the tuning exam, and not being required to aurally set the temperament. 
> You're changing the subject.
> You asked a legitimate question, and I, and other gave you legitimate, truthful answers. But you don't want to hear 
> the truth, because you can't handle the truth. So forgive me, Duaine. But you've just struck out, Again.
> Wim
>

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