[pianotech] Possible adaptation for the Tuning Exam

[John Ross]

You would think that I would have known that, about beating against the fork.
But when I first started out, with no guild members around, I was trying to learn on my own.
After I joined the guild i was finally able to get some assistance with things.
The local tuners, when I first started out, were really protective of their knowledge, they would tell you nothing, thinking you might steal their clients.
Times have changed, Duaine doesn't know how lucky he is, being able to get all the 'free' help from PTG members on this list.
John Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia
On 2012-11-11, at 4:17 PM, David Nereson <da88ve at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> >> Why can't a pitchpipe be used to set the temperament ?
> >>
> >> So let's try and stick to the subject, please ?
> >>
> >> Duaine
> 
>    Yes, as someone else said, a temperament is 12 notes, 13 if you count the octave, whereas most pitch pipes are just one note or maybe four (as in the ones sold for tuning violins, cellos, etc.).  You could use the pitch pipe to set your first note, or maybe even to set four notes, but the ones for string instruments don't have those four notes within one octave. Besides, you'd probably be no more accurate than using a chromatic harmonica.  You'd have to hold either one in your mouth while you blow, play the key, and manipulate the tuning hammer simultaneously.  
>     In answer to which note a couple of octaves below is used to check the accuracy:  if you're tuning A4, you'd use F2 as a reference note and listen to the 5th partial (compare F2 - A4 beat speed vs. F2 and the fork or pitch pipe). If you're tuning C4 but using a fork that sounds C5, you'd use G#2, and listen to the 5th partial.    
>     --David Nereson, RPT
> 
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Paul Williams <pwilliams4 at unl.edu> wrote:
> A pitch pipe is not as 'clean' as a true pitch fork.  Why use a dirty
> sounding pipe?  At least get a clean and pure tone from a good fork! If
> your fork is like a harmonica, you can vary the pitch with the amount of
> air you blow into it.  Come on dude, join the gang. You're not going to
> win any of these arguments when preaching to the choir on setting a true
> A-440. Even if that pitch pipe is on, you're going to hear lots of other
> "noises" going on rather that a nice and true tone from a well made fork.
> I have the one from England absolutely true, even with a 10 degree air
> temp variance.  It's the big one I got 23 years ago.  None of those measly
> skinny ones!  The big one is essential for setting concert tunings, but I
> guess you don't get that opportunity, Sorry, bud.
> 
> Sorry, man, but the pitch pipe is substandard!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 11/11/12 1:03 PM, "Duaine Hechler" <dahechler at att.net> wrote:
> 
> >Ha Ha - your mouth or the SAT..........
> >
> >On 11/11/2012 12:48 PM, Paul McCloud wrote:
> >> Don't worry, I keep it clean.  I had to wash it out with soap once,
> >>when my dad heard me curse.
> >> Paul Mc
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman at cox.net>
> >> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:03:21 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Possible adaptation for the Tuning Exam
> >>
> >> On 11/11/2012 11:58 AM, Paul McCloud wrote:
> >>
> >>> Paul McCloud San Diego (Tuning orally for 24 years with my
> >>> SAT I)
> >> You should never put a SAT in your mouth, even if you know where it's
> >>been.
> >> Ron N
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Duaine Hechler
> >Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding
> >(314) 838-5587 / dahechler at att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
> >Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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