Phil said: "So, here's how I see it working: The wood block is placed in a vise and the wire pulled up through the the steel hole and twisted it into a loop with your plier tool. The end of the loop is left long, and goes under the screw. It is then twisted by rotating the pliers parallel to the top of the block. Is that close?" Phil Jamison Well, you're 1/2 way there. The block is held in the hand, not the vise. The vise grips "grip" the wire, (now there's a concept!<G>), at, approx. 1 1/2". You make a figure "4".(hopefully the tail will be approx. 1" past the loop) Put the straight, (premeasured), wire end through the block and pull to the figure "4". Place the tail under the lip of the screw head and turn the block. That should give you 3 wraps, (which is what I like), when the tail slips past the screw shank. A final trimming of the tail may or may not be necessary, depending on how consistent you are. I like to put my wire cutters parallel to the string, against the loop and snip. This works good IF your loops are a consistent size. Well, that's how I've been doing it. Like Ron, I've not had much success with the round nosed pliers, (they slip), so I went to the Vice Grip/modified and have had much easier time and more consistency. The most recent rebuilds have had ALL German loops, top to bottom. Once you've done one of those, you'll have it down pat. Hope that helps. Joe Joe Garrett, R.P.T. Captain of the Tool Police Squares R I
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