Jim It sounds like a similar click I had on a K&C grand, (Samick product). After all sorts of trials and errors, just like you, I found a small piece of hard glue in the damper rail bushing. Every time the damper wire raised up, the wire brushed against the hard glue and clicked. Give that a try. Good luck. Wim. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Ialeggio <jim at grandpianosolutions.com> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 4:24 pm Subject: [pianotech] wooden click at letoff?...reprise An unsuccessful followup on this post from November... Got back back to this 10 year old Renner action with a recalcitrant click at and after letoff. There are now 2 of them, F1 & G#1. I had thought originally that the sound was from the shank assembly, so I appeared armed and ready for knuckle changing or shank changing. Removed and re-glued both knuckles, then set about putting in a Dampp Chaser. Finished the DC and listen for the click...still there...rats. Swapped a nearby quiet shank, and carefully regulated the swapped shank so I got the full and proper letoff/aftertouch event. The swapped shank produced the same click as the original shank. So my original assumption that the shank was the culprit was too hastily decided. Started looking around. -F1 had an anamolous geometry issue. JAck was smacking the jack stop felt, while all the other notes including the other offending note, G#1, were just fine at the jack stop felt. Removed half the jack stop felt from F1...click remained. The jack toe is definitely set at a lower angle than the other whips, and jack travel is more than the other whips, but it doesn't seem to be the source of the sound, as I removed enough felt to leave some clearance. -looked for flange issues on two whips (turbo). G# cracked on one side of the flange, but F1 fine. -Then in messing around, I lifted the dampers with the pedal, and tried both notes again. This time the click on both notes disappeared! I suspected a loose lead in the damper levers. Took out the action played with the offending damper levers, but as time was way past up, and had to clear out, I couldn't remove the levers to check the weights on this visit. In moving the levers there was no noise, but I don't think that is a fair indication of anything, since connection to the back of the key is their path to the click amplifying keyframe/keybed...though there is a felt interface beween damper lever and key which I would think would mitigate at least some noise. Question?...does this sound like the modus operandi of loose damper lever weight? Why would damper lever weights click at and after letoff? Let off does impart a kick to the key, which might rouse the offending leads, but I'm still somewhat sceptical...but running out of ideas. I scheduled a DC followup tuning in 3 weeks, so I have an imminent rematch. Jim Ialeggio -- Jim Ialeggio jim at grandpianosolutions.com 978 425-9026 Shirley Center, MA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130104/436fcc43/attachment.htm>
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