Hi John, The product is being beta tested by convention purchasers of a neat 3 1/4 inch applicator needle and bottle and the jury still out. In my own field tests it works similar to protec or slightly better. The ingredients are a secret Goose Hearder balm mixed with a carrier LOL Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John D. Chapman" <chapmajd@wfu.edu> To: <caut@ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:26 PM Subject: Re: verdigris > I agree with Fred about moving the joint. On tough cases I have pushed > the center pin out about one sixteenth of an inch, applied the protek, > turned the flange over, pushed the pin back in continuing to one > sixteenth inch out on the other side, applied the protek, pushed the pin > back in, then swing the flange back and forth about twenty times. This > does not take as much time as it sounds. But the problem will > eventually come back. Replace the parts whenever possible. > > Joe, tell us more about Goose Juice. > > John Chapman RPT > Wake Forest University > Winston-Salme NC > > > On Tue, 17 Jul > 2001, Fred Sturm wrote: > > > I've also had good luck with protek CPL. The trick is to move each joint > > physically _side to side_. For hammer flanges, bump the birdseye against > > each side of the flange, for example. Make sure you can feel the bump > > both ways. Bump it back and forth a couple times. With practice it's a > > pretty rapid process - grab and do a little nervous jerky jerky. Wippens > > and jacks similarly. Just applying, or just applying and swinging them, > > is nowhere near as effective or permanent. Sometimes I reapply and > > rebump side to side. I won't say it always works on every joint, but on > > the majority it has. At least for me. And they've stayed reasonably free > > for a few years so far (after three or four, if the piano isn't used > > much, the friction begins to show up again). > > Of course this is a matter of "make it work on a tight budget." If you > > can replace parts, or if rebushing is viable, by all means do so. I > > certainly give my customer no guarantee as to how long and how well a > > Protek treatment will last. > > Regards, > > Fred Sturm > > University of New Mexico > > > > Daniel Dover wrote: > > > > > > --- You wrote: > > > My question is this: is there a solution that anyone knows of that will > > > attack this vertigris > > > --- end of quote --- > > > > > > Michelle, > > > > > > As long as the bushings have not been previously treated with anything else, I > > > have found that Protek does an excellent (and long-lasting) job of overcoming > > > verdigris in action centers. I treated some actions years ago that are still > > > functioning well. Depending on the severity of the verdigris, I needed to > > > re-apply Protek to a handful of parts later on, and perhaps one or two will > > > continue to be a bit stubborn. But, overall, I consider the Protek to be a very > > > satisfactory solution to the problem. > > > > > > Danny Dover > > > Dartmouth College > > > Hanover, NH > >
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