Wim, I realize this is a small point, but vacation and sick time are only of value if one uses it. Our vacation time works the same as sick leave, in that it is accrued at the rate of 15 days per year. After 10 years, that rate increases some. We don't get an immediate 4 weeks paid vacation. So far, I've averaged using much less sick leave than I get, and annual leave as well. It has to build up, and once you use what's saved, you start over with a goose egg. You can roll over up to 45 days of annual leave each year, but you can take no more than 30 days. You can roll over up to 180 days of sick leave each year, but you can take no more than 30 days. At this point, if you're not using enough of your saved leave time so that you end the year with more than 45 days, you're actually losing the value of it. Upon retirement, the state will pay you for up to 45 days of remaining annual leave at the value it is worth at the time, but sick leave gets NO reimbursement at retirement. Therefore, the value of sick leave when figured into salary, is a bit overrated. You only get paid for what you use. Or do you? We have 14 paid state holidays, which except for MLK, July 4th, Labor Day, Election Day (15th holiday), and Thanksgiving, are all bunched up during the Christmas break, when I could be getting some valuable work done, but if I don't take them, I lose them. Yes, we're getting paid to sit at the house or go visit family. Or are we? Yes, added together, the value of this leave time comes out to $6390.46. But that's GROSS. IF you use all this leave, taxes and other deductions still come out, leaving a $4260.49 net, for 44 available days of leave and holidays. Or is it? Now, consider this. If you DON'T use this leave time and work all year, what will you be paid? Exactly the same amount if you had used it. You can't add the value of the leave time to your salary to invent a bigger salary. If I take all 44 days of vacation and holidays I earn each year, will I then be making $45,030.46? If I show up for work during paid holidays, will my pay increase? NO. Only if I use the leave time to perform extra work outside does it put additional funds in my pocket. If we had no paid leave and were to have to use UNPAID leave, the salary would be reduced -- it would not stay the same. My $38,640 INCLUDES the $6390.46 of AVAILABLE leave time. So, actually, my salary is $32,249.54, plus $6390.46 for the added value of 44 days of paid leave, which I have the freedom to use all of or save until next year, or never use at all. Is paid leave a nice benefit? Of course. But it does not actually increase the salary, and you can't compare it that way. Only at retirement is any of this leave actually worth additional compensation in the form of dollars, and that's limited to 45 days of saved annual leave, and then, you've got to watch out for jumping tax brackets. The rest of it is of no additional dollar value. Our human resources department uses the same selling point you use for adding the value of paid leave to the salary. But that's really misleading, now isn't it? And remember, private sector employers offer paid leave, too. Yes, the value of the state's contribution to my health insurance costs are a big plus -- over being self-employed -- but that's the case for ANY employment situation. Most every private sector business which has a large number of employees will offer similar benefits, including 401(k), profit sharing, etc. Actually, our state health plan contributions are a bit more costly to the employee than a lot of private corporation plans are. My wife's former employer was a relatively small business, yet her contribution to health plan was ZERO. They paid her entire premium. If she covered family members that was additional, but our state doesn't offer a zero contribution for the employee. Right now, our state isn't even matching contributions to our 401(k) (which is in addition to the state pension), so where's the value in that? So, we're making less than private sector employees, and it costs us more to do so. Speaking of leave time, I'm taking some of it for the next few days as we have a family member near death back home. Take care all. Jeff Wim wrote: >I make $20 per hour, times $37.50 is $39,000. My vacation time, sick days, >and holidays adds another $5850. The difference between what I used to >pay, and what it cost me now for health insurance is $4800. The difference >in rec center is $340. Retirement adds $1170 per year. This year I am >taking 3 weeks of professional development time, at $20 per hour is >another $2250. That's $14,410. in "benefits." That doesn't even include >the tuition, which I am not taking advantage of. > >My full time income from the university has a value of $53,410. Is this in >line what a "full time" technician makes? > >Wim >
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