It sounds like even though the parts are Renner Steinway, they probably weren't the proper ones for that piano. Apparently the technician did not get a good "match" of the original parts, or he/she just didn't know that "genuine replacement parts" doesn't mean they will fit. I am sure the jiffy leads were an attempt to make it right. I think the customer needs to know that the action parts are just not right and the only way to make it really right is to replace them. Maybe the technician who did the work should buy back the faulty parts so that you can purchase the correct ones. Another suggestion might be to try a turbowhip (spring loaded) and see what that does to the touchweight. Paul Paul Kupelian, RPT -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Kent Swafford Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:00 PM To: College Technicians Subject: D The local junior college has the finest concert hall in the area. Their house piano has been an SD-10 that they picked up cheap when the hall was opened. They have known that they needed a D, and last year they finally got one, a 30 year old rebuilt one. It was rebuilt by a known company in NY. It has been in place perhaps 9 months, and played in public 4 times. That sounds like they might be aware that there is a problem with the instrument, but to hear them tell it, it is simply that the final prep wasn't done after delivery as promised because the tech who would have done that wasn't traveling in the wake of 9-11. Anyway, I was called out to see the piano. Downweight measured 75 grams, + or -. I found jiffy leads, attached to the underside of many of the keys, _behind_ the balance rail. I removed them, thinking that I was about to find the reason that they were added in the first place. I still haven't a clue. Maybe the rebuilder didn't either... (Anybody care to speculate on why they were put there?) Downweight now measures 65 grams, + or -. The action parts appeared to be Renner, with real Steinway hammers, but the wips do not have screw-adjustable rep springs, so the parts couldn't be very new(?) Maybe the rebuild wasn't all that recent and the piano hadn't sold(?) The back action had been replaced with a Renner kit, but with dampers only going up to E6, not up to G6 that is normal in Ds. Most of the capstans were off the edge of the capstan felt, some grossly so, so the action is not aligned properly. I have improved the spacing of the wips in relation to the capstans, and re-timed the dampers to lift properly (they were lifting too early, contributing to the heavy action), and have done normal friction reduction. Now the piano is at least playable. Before, the piano wouldn't really play above mezzo-piano. Now there is at least a forte. The question, of course, is, "What do I tell the customer?" The action really needs to start over, with proper geometry, and the proper number of dampers, but... the piano could probably get by with just some weight reduction in the action/hammers. The stringing and refinish appear to be pretty darn good. The action, however, is a mess. 3 less dampers than other Ds? Any ideas? Thanks for letting me think "out loud". Kent Swafford _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003
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