Verdigris

Joe And Penny Goss imatunr@srvinet.com
Wed, 11 Aug 2004 06:23:58 -0600


Right on Tim,
And the real fix will cost the owners of my project $1500.00 in just parts
as opposed to $10.00  in Juice for the last 10 years.
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Coates" <tcoates1@sio.midco.net>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Verdigris


> I believe the original question was concerning an application of
> somesort to remedy verdigris.
>
> The comments have all been interesting.  But there are underlining
> issues that haven't been addressed.  They will determine which methods
> to use.  What type piano are we talking about and what is the economic
> situation of the customer.  Remember them?
>
> I recently used Wild Turkey Bourbon on a grand that is owned by a
> retired music professor who is on a fixed income.  According to some
> this situation should only be remedied by replacing the parts.  Which
> foods or medicines should this fixed income person forgo so he can play
> his piano with new parts? Maybe he should just not have a piano for the
> rest of his life?  Gosh, maybe that is fitting.  If he can't fix it
> right, he shouldn't fix it at all.
>
> I have permanently (the list seems to think 25 years enough time to
> qualify as permanent) repaired verdigris in spinet and console pianos
> for people with very limited incomes.  I suppose I should refuse to
> work on these pianos because they aren't grand pianos, but in my part
> of the world you work on everything or you don't work.  Word gets
> around that you are uppedy and the people with the grands won't hire
> you.  Some of you work in a different type of world and that's OK, but
> don't think your rules must apply to everybody else.  Personally I find
> the lower income people more of pleasure to work for.  I could tell
> stories here, but it's not worth  it.  Let's put it this way, there is
> a difference between being taken for granted and being truly
> appreciated for my skills.
>
> Not everything is cut and dried.  Yes, I replace parts in fine
> instruments if the situation allows it.   Contrary to what others are
> saying, there is more than one way to fix the verdigris problem.  And
> the fix can be long lasting.  I will say that using Wild Turkey Bourbon
> on flanges that have had some sort of lubricant put on them doesn't
> work well.  The original question didn't say anything about other
> chemicals already being put on the flanges.   The question pertained to
> verdigris only as I understood it.
>
> Tim Coates
> University of South Dakota
>
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