[CAUT] Fw: mystery center pinning

Barbara Richmond piano57@flash.net
Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:03:30 -0600


Oops, that should be "Should I be concerned that the friction didn't stay 
where I put it?"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Richmond" <piano57@flash.net>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Cc: <kw88keys@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fw: mystery center pinning


> Thanks for your response, Kent.
>
> I was going to call today, but time got away.
>
> So, did I screw them all up?  Should I be concerned that the friction stay 
> where I put it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barbara Richmond
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kent Webb" <kw88keys@yahoo.com>
> To: <ed440@mindspring.com>; "College and University Technicians" 
> <caut@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [CAUT] Fw: mystery center pinning
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> It's not often I get a chance to view the list but I
>> did see this post and can confirm what Ed wrote. The
>> S&S spec for center pins torque is 1-4 grams but I
>> have seen many sets work fine at less than one gram.
>> Like many of you, I was accustomed to a higher torque
>> (more like 4-6 grams) but S&S uses a dense felt with a
>> teflon extender that enables very low friction while
>> maintaining a firm control. A great advantage of this
>> is accelerated up-weight and, from my expereince, when
>> many pianists say they want a lighter touch they are
>> really trying to tell us they want the keys to stay
>> with their fingers as they lift from the keys. The
>> higher the upweight, the faster the key will stay with
>> thier fingers on the return to full at-rest position.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> Kent Webb
>>
>> --- Ed Sutton <ed440@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe what you have are parts behaving according
>>> to current genuine Steinway factory standards, i.e.
>>> "swing as many times as possible as long as there is
>>> no wobble side to side."
>>> Others of greater authority than I will either
>>> confirm or demolish this statement.
>>>
>>> Ed S.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Barbara Richmond
>>> To: College and University Technicians
>>> Sent: 12/3/2004 11:17:25 PM
>>> Subject: [CAUT] Fw: mystery center pinning
>>>
>>>
>>> Yet another question, folks,
>>>
>>> I had to repin all the Steinway shanks I recently
>>> installed.  When they came, they were the best
>>> examples of perpetual motion machines I had ever
>>> seen.  Well, golly, almost all of them have loosened
>>> up again!--not to their original state, but much
>>> looser than I find acceptable. (The piano got used a
>>> couple of times while work was in progress.)   Dang,
>>> I've never had this happen before---am I in the
>>> twilight zone?  I couldn't believe my eyes.  Would
>>> shrinking the cloth help before I pin....again?   I
>>> do have plenty of high quality bushing cloth on
>>> hand.......groan.
>>>
>>> Also, I was surprised the first time I repinned to
>>> find that the center pins were all .052.  That
>>> seemed sort of big for original pinning.  I replaced
>>> them with .053.  Now I feel like I'm going to end up
>>> using telephone poles to get them right.  Here I
>>> thought I was almost done with this job and now
>>> this......  :-(
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> Barbara Richmond, RPT
>>
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