Hi Mark, I see what you're saying. I forgot to add that our students fill twice per week, blinking lights only. That way there is never more than 4 days that a light should blink. It should be safe that long. My understanding is that the sensor should be at the 1/2 way mark; iow, starts blinking at one container left/one gone mark. (Holds 2, no?) Keith tells me that dampchaser has a beeping signal you can install. (Fill 'til it beeps) Sounds like potential havoc to me... ("My piano is beeping and I can't shut it off..." :-) Jim -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Mark Cramer Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:43 AM To: ed440@mindspring.com; College and University Technicians Subject: RE: an easy fix? (blind) humidifier filling Right Ed, with almost 70 humidifiers to service Jim, chasing blinking lites (filling on demand) isn't practical. However, having students top-up all pianos on an assigned weekly basis works really well; Low-water lights rarely come on, and if they do, it triggers a follow-up on my part. Prior to (grand) bottom-covers, students would pre-check levels manually, by reaching into the tank. With bottom-covers though, this is impractical and from a wear & tear perspective, not desireable. For similar reasons, (probably discussed previously) we've removed filler tubes from all verticals, and the students are very happy to check levels and water directly into the tank. Working with assistants can be a challenge. Often someone else's idea of thoroughness and/or consistancy differs from our own. I really depend on help from these students, and they've done a remarkable job, reporting malfuntions, un-plugged systems etc. If I can solve this one issue though, it will make their job all the easier. Yup, even Ed's slightly wacky idea's worth a look! :>) best regards, Mark Cramer Brandon University BTW, thanks for your personal thoughts and help on knuckle bolstering Jim, and Ed for sending me regulating instructions for the Bluthner Patent Action! -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Ed Sutton Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:10 AM To: Jim Busby; College and University Technicians Subject: RE: an easy fix? (blind) humidifier filling Jim, I think Mark's idea is to keep all tanks "topped off." The light doesn't blink until the tank is well over a pitcher's worth low. Ed > [Original Message] > From: Jim Busby <jim_busby@byu.edu> > To: <ed440@mindspring.com>; College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> > Date: 5/10/2004 11:53:08 AM > Subject: RE: an easy fix? (blind) humidifier filling > > Ed, Mark, > > What's wrong with filling 'til the light stops blinking? Am I missing > something? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ed > Sutton > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:55 PM > To: College and University Technicians > Subject: RE: an easy fix? (blind) humidifier filling > > Hey, Mark! > Here's an idea for you: > Attach a length of aquarium tubing in the tank such that it ends at the > desired water level. > While filling the tank, the student blows through the aquarium tubing. > When the air starts to bubble in the water, the student knows the tank > is > filled. A little wacky, but I believe it would work, and I know how > important it is in Brandon to keep the humidifiers working! > Ed Sutton > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Mark Cramer <Cramer@BrandonU.CA> > > To: CAUT <caut@ptg.org> > > Date: 5/7/2004 2:01:32 PM > > Subject: an easy fix? (blind) humidifier filling > > > > It occurs to me there may be a simple(r) solution to "blind" filling > of > > humidifiers in grands with bottom covers, but I honestly need some > feedback > > from the tinkerers among us to know if it's worth pursueing: > > > > Note that you can often hear the water "trickling" into the tank until > the > > level rises above the end of the hose. > > > > Stop the flow of water before the hose-level is reached, and the > "trickling" > > stops. > > > > While pouring until the hose is almost submurged, then stopping, will > cause > > a "gurgling" sound, as air enters. > > > > Filling beyond this point is silent (until the tanks overflows) > however, > > when you lower the pitcher, the water-flow will reverse. > > > > So it seems several "audible" indicators of water-level already exist, > > without a need to "manually" check the tank. > > > > One difficulty however seems to be "hearing" the trickling sound, and > > noticing when it stops. The sound is often very faint. > > > > I'm wondering if some really, really simple fixture could be added to > the > > end of the hose to make the "trickling" sound LOUDER, more distinct? > > > > If so, our watering assistants could merely add water to EVERY piano, > by > > schedule, rather than demand. > > > > They could add water until the "trickling" sound stops. > > > > If the tanks were still full, there would be no "trickling" sound, and > air > > would "gurgle" back when they stopped pouring. > > > > If over-filled, the pitcher could be lowered to siphon excess water > back, > > until the "gurgling" sound indicated capacity. > > > > One point Becky Baldwin of Dampp-chaser mentions, is the need for the > angled > > slice at the end of the water hose, and that this be set precisely for > > correct water-level. (sorry, I forget) > > > > Anyhow, wouldn't it be nice to face the return of students in fall > with > this > > deceptively simple problem solved? > > > > thanks in advance for your input, > > Mark Cramer, > > Brandon University > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > _______________________________________________ > caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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