[CAUT] Knabe Grand

[Avery Todd]

I can't recall, but this one would sure be a good candidate for a class 
like that! :-)

Avery

At 02:41 PM 10/15/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Speaking of lyre repairs....has the Journal ever had a extensive article 
>on lyre repairs...field and shop...every possible situation?   Seems to me 
>Jim Harvey did
>something or had a class...
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>
>
>
>----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
>From: Otto Keyes <okeyes@uidaho.edu>
>To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>
>Received: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:10:46 -0700
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Knabe Grand
>
> >This summer I had a Sohmer grand w/ fluted legs, scrollwork lyre, etc, that
> >the got shoved around the theatre lobby, leg knocked off, & lyre crushed .
> >Not a pretty sight, & no possible way to duplicate it.  Both uprights were
> >broken right at the top of the pedal box at the smallest/weakest possible
> >spot in the turning.  I ended up using polyurethane liquid glue at the
> >breaks (this stuff needs good clamping or it will push the parts apart),
> >then drilled up through the pedal box into the uprights & glued in maple
> >dowels.  The repair is very solid & hardly visible...if you stand back about
> >20 feet, & squint your eyes into the darkness under the piano.
>
> >Actually it turned out pretty decently, but would have been better had I
> >located the center of the dowel/upright from the top & drilled a pilot hole.
> >I made an assumption (violating Otto's motto:  "Check everyting before you
> >do anything!") and didn't realize until too late that the dowels did not
> >extend all the way into the pedal box.  So I measured & centered as best I
> >could, but the drill hole breached the thin spot in the upright, allowing
> >the reinforcing dowel to protrude a bit.  I could have shaped that down, but
> >wanted the full strength, so I disguised it & it came out pretty well.
>
> >The poly glue is tough stuff on its own, & will hold pretty well -- even on
> >an end grain joint.  Just don't try to wipe off the excess.  Let it cure,
> >then chip/cut off the foam.
>
> >Otto
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Avery Todd" <atodd@uh.edu>
> >To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
> >Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:51 AM
> >Subject: [CAUT] Knabe Grand
>
>
> >> List,
> >>
> >> Would anyone happen to have a suggestion on where I might be able to find
> >> someone to duplicate/repair a badly messed up pedal lyre on an old Knabe
> >> grand, app. 6'3"? I
> >> sent an e-mail to a tech friend of mine in this general area but I don't
> >> know if
> >> he'll have the time to do it, so in the meantime, I thought I'd see if
> >anyone
> >> had any other suggestions.
> >>
> >> I was working with the pedals and suddenly, the whole bottom of it broke
> >> and/or
> >> came loose. It's obviously been worked on before, not very well. I'm not a
> >> good
> >> enough woodworker to do this one, so any suggestions would be welcome.
> >Even
> >> replacing it.
> >>
> >> The one pictured in the Schaff catalogue "might" be adaptable but the
> >> measurements
> >> are somewhat different.
> >>
> >> Theirs: 21¼" high, 13½" wide @ top, 10" wide @ pedals.
> >> Mine:   23"  high, 12"  wide @ top, 8½" wide @ pedals.
> >>
> >> There is a little flaring out in the design on the Knabe, so there would
> >> probably
> >> be room to "cheat" a little. It would be nice to have an exact duplicate
> >but I
> >> seriously doubt that's possible. Unless someone can duplicate some of the
> >> parts.
> >>
> >> Actually, I just took another look and realized that the only thing that
> >would
> >> have to be done is to duplicate the two tapered "legs" between the pedal
> >> box and
> >> the top and drill out and replace the old dowels that join the two.
> >>
> >> I'll probably be putting this on the pianotech list tonight when I get
> >> home, so
> >> I apologize in advance to any of you who will end up getting two of these
> >> posts.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Avery
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> Avery Todd
> >> University of Houston
> >> Houston, TX
> >>
> >>
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