[CAUT] Liszt, historical pianos et. al.disccusion and links (long)

Jeff Tanner jtanner@mozart.sc.edu
Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:09:36 -0500


One of our piano faculty members has a straight strung from the 1860's, 
but that's probably not what you're referring to?
Jeff

On Thursday, February 17, 2005, at 05:07 PM, Fred Sturm wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>     I believe the Metropolitan Museum of Art recently acquired an Erard
> which was either owned, or at least extensively played, by Liszt. It's 
> not
> out on display at present, but the musical instrument curator was 
> talking
> about it last fall. Offered to take us (a Steinway class) down to see 
> it,
> but we ran out of time - had another place to be. Sounded like it was
> supposed to be in playing condition.
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
>
>
>
> On 2/17/05 11:39 AM, "Bdshull@aol.com" <Bdshull@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Richard,
>>
>> Thanks for you incredibly entertaining post!
>>
>> While Liszt did endorse, own and play a multitude of pianos 
>> throughout his
>> life, the piano of choice during his "recitalizing" and composing 
>> years was
>> the Erard.   His "sound world" as a pianist and composer was informed 
>> by all
>> the brands he came into contact with (and there was a great variety 
>> in the
>> first half of the nineteenth century). But since the Erard was his 
>> preferred
>> instrument through the early 50's, it was his primary point of 
>> reference.
>>
>> This is why I believe in the importance of replicating the Erard, 
>> preferably
>> an instrument similar to the one donated by our colleague David Moore 
>> (who
>> died in a plane crash a couple years ago) to the National Music 
>> Museum:
>>
>> NMM 5984. Grand piano by Erard, Paris, 1849. AAA-a4 (7 octaves). Two 
>> pedals:
>> una corda, dampers. Gift of David Moore, Jacksonville, Texas, 1996.
>>
>> David made sure to tell me that he had restrung and rehammered this 
>> piano, and
>> that it was no longer original.   But this 1849 Erard was the largest 
>> compass
>> Erard built to date, one of the first 85 note pianos built.  It can 
>> accomodate
>> all of Liszt's literature, while faithfully representing his earlier 
>> material
>> too, since the design remained similar for the 25 years leading up to 
>> 1849.
>>
>> I don't know what the treble will sound like on a replica Erard, but 
>> I would
>> love to know.  Your very entertaining description of the Erard in the
>> recording isn't the reaction of everyone (my musicology professor 
>> loved the
>> sound of the  Erard restored by David Winston in the recent Emmanuel 
>> Ax Chopin
>> recordings - but he has a more open mind than most...  :)
>>
>> I still hold out hope we will get more from the treble when the belly 
>> is new
>> and the string is deflected (I haven't found any documentation for 
>> crown or
>> bearing for Erard, but I haven't looked too hard, and would love to 
>> find it),
>> but it seems obvious Erard would have deflected the string some, and 
>> a new
>> belly must sound different than an old one in the treble, no?
>>
>> Loved your post...!
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
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