---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Sorry It's Jeff, My aplogies. I Have also Had the experience you listed in the bottom of this post but only once. & I'll contribute it mostly to Nervous artist syndrome for only the pianist thought he wasn't getting enough sound at the keyboard in the MJC rectal that was somewhat lacking in acoustic enhancement.( But I am talking D & not M as was in your case & I think that would give many -concert players a dis- advantaged feel if they were indeed used to a bigger sound for the music they prepped for). I think some halls can suck the sound away from the piano as did this one. Partly because of that and the placement of the piano too far back from the front of the stage. . Any way am very familiar with the D I refer to. (mine). Many had played it prior to this occasion & In fact the sound the audiuence was experiencing was GIGANTIC . It was enormously satisfying to hear that much of the piano & I like big noisy pieces.The concert artist was playing a huge all Russian music program. He played with SO much force his nails completely destroyed the finish on the front of the fall board. He did everything he told his Master class that day not to do. ie keep ones bottom on the bench,don't pound,dont' stomp foot etc. I refinished the fall board later $300.00 At intermission he opted to finish his program on a newish B that had the sound of shattering glass. Very typical linear Steinway sound with hammers that had too much lacquer. The rest of his Performance was glassy & empty sounding compared to the D he started out on & this is the opinion of many others including music teachers. The applause at intermission was spontaneous & warm. At the end it was obligitaory for Vladamir had shot himself in the foot with the my home town crowd by switching horses mid stream So here is another "depends on" to add to the mix And that's the rest of the story Dale On Monday, January 10, 2005, at 04:15 PM, Erwinspiano@aol.com wrote: > HI Jason Jeff? > SO,what you're saying is if the piano has no power at the keyboard > it can still fill a large hall? Just to clarify, no, that's not what I meant. I was addressing your statement: > the thing I learned first was that in order for a D to project ,& have > color & susutain it must be voiced so that sitting at the piano > it will literally Roar at you. I only meant that just because the artist can't hear the piano, doesn't mean it isn't projecting well into the hall. You have no argument from me that if the artist perceives the instrument as weak that that is when you get the complaints. But I think it is often the deceptiveness of the hall, or the placement of the piano in relation to acoustic projection installations which brings on complaints, rather than the instrument itself. I tuned for a performance at a local church Friday. The piano was a 1966 Steinway M that I'd never seen before, and if you asked me it had been tuned all its life and that's about it. The pianist felt she had to really work to make the piano project because she couldn't hear from the keyboard what was being projected up out and away from her. The regulation was terribly uneven and the voicing was worse. I would have needed about 3 days with that piano to make her comfortable. Out in the room, however, which was pretty large for an M, but had excellent acoustics, the piano was booming and had a lovely tone quality from pp to ffff. Sounded more like a B or a D -- plenty of piano for that very large room. The piano sounded much better when she backed off and didn't work so hard. Thankfully, her husband (also a pianist) was also there to console her and coach her towards that direction. I think this isn't such an uncommon scenario. Jeff ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/4c/b7/72/b4/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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