[CAUT] Keydip--how deep

[Barbara Richmond]

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Re: [CAUT] Keydip--how deepHey all,

Well, I thought I'd report on how it worked out.  I took Jim Busby's =
suggestion of looking at the bore distance and ended up raising the =
stack .018" (thin white card punching).  It did the trick and put =
everything where I wanted it.  The first person to play it was Michael =
Wolff, a jazz pianist and Steinway artist.  His first comment to me was, =
"This action feels really good."  Thumbs up!  =20

Darn, I forgot to ask him to mention it to the manager of the =
auditorium.  :-)

Thanks everyone for your help. =20

Barbara Richmond, RPT
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  Hello,
        Back in 1998, Ruth Laredo commented that "the keys go down too =
far" on our then new D.   Dip at that time was about .415.  (This D has =
a high string height).  Having wrestled with keydip question myself, I =
recently asked Ralph Votapek about it.  His comment was that one could =
feel deeper into the keys and get more power with deeper dip and =
possibly more control.  He doesn't mind it.  Other worthy pianists have =
given me varied opinions.   My conclusion is that one size doesn't =
necessarily fit all.=20
       Ed Foote's post did a great job of pointing out the ruling grades =
for keydip and how they vary.  Short of rebuilding the piano, replacing =
hammers with different bore distance, or some other geometry alteration, =
there are some choices/compromises we must make in regulating.  All we =
can do is listen to the pianists comments on a particular instrument and =
make whatever compromise is suitable and hope that what pleases one will =
satisfy another.  I don't think any hard-fast rule is going to suffice.
  -Mike Jorgensen=20


  On 10/11/05 2:20 PM, "Barbara Richmond" <piano57@insightbb.com> wrote:


    Hi folks,

    I've had some private correspondence with a few about this, but what =
the heck, I'll go public to get a few more opinions.

    Just wondering how deep you are willing to go with the key dip on a =
Steinway D.   I'm trying to decide when to sacrifice blow distance for =
comfortable dip--or making the dip deeper than I like to eek out more =
blow distance.  =20

    I suppose what it really comes down to is how much difference in =
power there would be between 1 7/8" blow and 1 3/4"?  Significant?  This =
is a really big hall (a bit less than 3500 seats), so power is an issue. =
=20

    Right now (with Crescendo punchings) dip is at .401" (my .391 block =
with a .010" punching added), blow around 1 3/4" with .030" aftertouch.  =
It feels a lot better <to me> than when the blow was at 1 7/8", though I =
didn't have any complaints when the dip was deeper.  I did go back and =
read a bunch of stuff in the archives about dip and folks reported that =
they didn't have complaints about deep dip, but I don't recall anyone =
getting real specific about how deep they were actually willing to go.

    Thanks for sharing your experience,

    Barbara Richmond, RPT =20

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