[CAUT] Glue For Hammers

[Horace Greeley]

Hi, Alan,

If memory serves, that set of buildings is also hermetically 
sealed.  So, how the engineers have the air-exchange set up will make 
a huge difference...as, of course, will being located in what might 
be called a semi-arid area.

Best.

Horace


At 09:31 AM 2/21/2006, you wrote:
>I work at a school of music in an area that has relative humidity in 
>the teens for most of the academic year. After completing a job with 
>hide glue just before a vacation, on a whim, I poured some into a 
>small paper cup and left it on my desk. A week later, the sides of 
>the cup had been sucked in (glue stuck to the paper, water 
>evaporated from glue). No big surprise there. What was interesting 
>was that up to NINE MONTHS later I still heard the glue cracking as 
>it (apparently) continued to shrink! (We also have problems with 
>failed glue joints on hammer heads here, but not just from our own 
>hide glue operations....whatever Yamaha uses has also failed on 
>numerous occasions in this environment.)
>
>Guess it's time to try Titebond Trim and Molding glue.
>
>Alan Eder
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel) <WOLFLEEL@UCMAIL.UC.EDU>
>To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org>
>Sent: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:37:09 -0500
>Subject: RE: [CAUT] Glue For Hammers
>
>I used hot hide glue for years for its purported acoustic qualities.
>  After doing institutional work for a few years where I could observe the
>results of my well-intended labors I noticed a rather startling failure
>rate, especially on hammers with walnut or mahogany moldings. I would
>guess that approximately 10% would come loose in a year or two. I don't
>  know if this is due to the brutal humidity conditions or to high use but
>  I switched to Titebond and the problem went away. I recently began using
>Titebond Trim and Molding Glue and find it to be superior to any other.
>It dries nearly as hard as the hide glue, is thick enough to form nice
>  glue collars without dripping all over everything and I have yet to find
>a loose hammer head. Pianotek carries it even though it's not in their
>catalog yet.
>
>Eric
>
>Eric Wolfley, RPT
>Head Piano Technician
>Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music
>University of Cincinnati
>-----Original Message-----
>From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of
>Tim Coates
>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:09 AM
>To: College and University Technicians
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Glue For Hammers
>
>Whatever you are comfortable with. Some prefer hide and some the
>tite-bond. There is no right or wrong answer as many try to make it.
>I prefer hide for hammers, but I can understand why others like
>tite-bond.
>
>
>
>Tim Coates
>
>On Feb 21, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Chris Solliday wrote:
>
> > Tite-Bond Trim and Molding Glue
> > Chris Solliday
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "central" <jorge1ml@mail.cmich.edu>
> > To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:18 AM
> > Subject: [CAUT] Glue For Hammers
> >
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >> What do you think is the best overall glue for hanging hammers?
> >> -Mike Jorgensen
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