[CAUT] WAPIN INSTALLATION: LIVE!

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Ponder this, what if simply adding the extra pin is adding mass and the
cause for the tonal change.
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr at srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RicB" <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:36 PM
Subject: [CAUT] WAPIN INSTALLATION: LIVE!


> Tim, Jim, and others.
>
> Jim does of course make a good point about the difficulty in testing.
> Tho I am unsure about the usefulness of his proposed test procedure
> itself in the sense that I dont think anyone is going to actually
> proceed in that fashion.
>
> Nor, do I think is that necessary. One can go about this from a more
> statistics oriented angle.  If it can be shown that the same kinds of
> characteristics show up time and time again the point of being
> statistically significant and beyond... given a large enough sampling...
> then one pretty much has to go along with the suggestion that the
> alteration has an affect.
>
> It is correct that nearly anything you do can corrupt a single
> experiments validity. I'm sure one could actually pick apart the
> alternating string idea for that matter. That does not necessarily
> eliminate the value of any such testing as Mark is offering.  The
> experience will no doubt be enlightening despite the fact that whatever
> results must be seen with skepticism from a purely scientific point of
> view.
>
> We deal in sound and subjective qualification of sound as much as we
> deal in anything else.  We can no more go forward from a purely
> scientific stance then we can ignore scientific perspective.  A healthy
> mix lies in between somewhere and acceptance of a certain degree of
> uncertainty is an absolute.
>
> I'm reminded of the "tests" used to "prove" that ETD tunings were just
> as good as the best ear tunings.  Funny how no one ever tried to
> ascertain if there were actually people who were capable of telling the
> difference.  The tests were designed to only find out how many could
> not.   And indeed... very very many could not. So many one could not
> ignore those numbers.  On the other hand... if you did find (by looking)
> a group of individuals out there that nearly 100 % of the time could
> identify an ETD tuning by ear... I wonder how this would affect our
> opinions of them.... just a thought on.... er... scientific method :)
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>