[CAUT] RE : key bushings

[David Ilvedson]

I like the trim and molding glue but it seems to set up a little quicker than I'd like for hammer hanging...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044


----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
Received: 11/7/2006 11:45:54 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] RE :  key bushings


>I still like hide glue for bushings, though I've gone to Titebond trim glue
>for hammers.  Make enough for the job and through it out when you are done
>to prevent rotting.  Use a jar/double boiler set up so you don't have to
>clean the glue pot.  Paint the mortises with a very thin coating before you
>start.  Then apply thinly to the cloth before inserting.  Keep it fairly
>runny so you don't get it on so thick that you get squeeze out inside the
>mortise (makes for nice clicky sounds).  It will adhere very easily and also
>steam out very easily.

>David Love
>davidlovepianos at comcast.net 
>www.davidlovepianos.com

>-----Original Message-----
>From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Greg
>Granoff
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:08 AM
>To: College and University Technicians
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] RE : key bushings

>It's odd, but among the various objections to hot hide glue that come up
>frequently is one against the way it smells, especially if it is "going
>off".  Many long years ago, my mentor taught me to put a few drops of spirit
>of camphor--available at any drug store-- say a drop or two per ounce into
>the glue mixture.  This dramatically slows the rotting process, and
>additionally gives the glue a very pleasant camphor-y smell--a bit like what
>you smell if you sand old style plastic keytops. Somehow I thought everyone
>knew about this.

>Greg Granoff

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman at cox.net>
>To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] RE : key bushings


>>
>> > The trouble I've had with hide glue, aside from the usual like -is it
>> > rotten and stinks? -is it too cold or too hot? - is that it leaves
>> > strings behind it and gets all over the place.
>>
>> With a glue pot designed for working with hide glue, heat
>> control is a matter of keeping the pot plugged in. If it
>> strings on you, you have it way too thick. Neither is the
>> fault of the glue.
>>
>>
>> >And it is quite as
>> > capable of sinking into the cloth as white glue, if it's made up too
>thin.
>> >
>> > Susan Kline
>>
>> Which is why I apply usably thin glue to the wood instead of
>> the cloth.
>>
>> We do whatever works for us, and as long as performance,
>> longevity, and future service aren't compromised, it's the
>> right way.
>> Ron N
>>