[CAUT] WAPIN Installation

Otto Keyes okeyes at uidaho.edu
Tue Nov 7 12:43:25 MST 2006


 "belligerent" prose (well, maybe the 'pigeon poo'
    was a little testy)!

On the other hand, have you ever heard a statue complain?! ..... Best just
wear a hat & keep walkin'!


----- Original Message -----
From: "RicB" <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: [CAUT] WAPIN Installation


> Dave, Tim... others.
>
> I'm not sure I agree with the statement that there hasnt been any posts
> that could not very understandably be seen as belligerent in tone, or
> borderline.  Given the history of some of the exchanges on this subject
> I'd think everyone should go out of their way to stay on very safe and
> very polite ground. It is far to easy as it is to read between the
> lines.  Especially when one has been stung outright in the past.
>
> That said... I'd agree with David in that whatever testing has been done
> should be made public and available to anyone that wants to check it
> out.  One of Stuarts & Sons problems is that they leave themselves open
> to this kind of questioning.. which indeed crosses the border into
> attack on occasion.
>
> One other point I'd like to make.  True enough... a patent holder must
> defend the claims made.  But not beyond what is reasonable.  Any
> counter-claim about the claims made must be just as credible in basis.
> But that is the extent of a patent holders responsiblities in this
> regard.  Strictly speaking... questions in themselves dont qualify as
> demanding an answer... tho perhaps it is wiser to meet the questioning
> community then ignore it.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
>
>     Tim:
>
>     I know posts from me have irritated you in the past so I'll try my
>     bestnot to do that with this one.
>
>     When someone invents something that they deem to be significant,
>     application is made for a patent.  In the patent process "claims"
>     are made.  If the patent office decides that these claims are novel,
>     not obvious, and not "prior art" a patent is awarded.  At that time
>     the claims are made public and the intellectual property is
>     protected for a length of time.
>
>     At this point outsiders can evaluate the claims in the patent and
>     question them.  The inventor/patent-holder must then defend their
>     claims. Once a patent has been made public the inventor can expect
>     questions from the relevant community about his/her work.  The old
>     playground "because I said so" doesn't suffice.  Questions, requests
>     for scientific (repeatable) test results can certainly be expected.
>     Even the testing process is open to discussion as to its validity.
>     This back-and-forth between knowledgeable people is what keeps
>     innovation moving.  That's all I've seen here in this discussion.  I
>     haven't seen any "belligerent" prose (well, maybe the 'pigeon poo'
>     was a little testy)!
>
>     As you know I spent two days with you learning the process and paid
>     my $100 to become a licensed Wapin installer.  I'm interested in
>     _anything_
>     that can improve our chosen instrument.  That doesn't mean that I
>     don't still have questions.  Like most in our line of work I always
>     want to know how and why something works.  These are questions, not
>     attacks!
>
>     dave
>
>     David M. Porritt
>     dporritt at smu.edu
>
>
>
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