"belligerent" prose (well, maybe the 'pigeon poo'
was a little testy)!
On the other hand, have you ever heard a statue complain?! ..... Best just
wear a hat & keep walkin'!
----- Original Message -----
From: "RicB" <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: [CAUT] WAPIN Installation
> Dave, Tim... others.
>
> I'm not sure I agree with the statement that there hasnt been any posts
> that could not very understandably be seen as belligerent in tone, or
> borderline. Given the history of some of the exchanges on this subject
> I'd think everyone should go out of their way to stay on very safe and
> very polite ground. It is far to easy as it is to read between the
> lines. Especially when one has been stung outright in the past.
>
> That said... I'd agree with David in that whatever testing has been done
> should be made public and available to anyone that wants to check it
> out. One of Stuarts & Sons problems is that they leave themselves open
> to this kind of questioning.. which indeed crosses the border into
> attack on occasion.
>
> One other point I'd like to make. True enough... a patent holder must
> defend the claims made. But not beyond what is reasonable. Any
> counter-claim about the claims made must be just as credible in basis.
> But that is the extent of a patent holders responsiblities in this
> regard. Strictly speaking... questions in themselves dont qualify as
> demanding an answer... tho perhaps it is wiser to meet the questioning
> community then ignore it.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
>
> Tim:
>
> I know posts from me have irritated you in the past so I'll try my
> bestnot to do that with this one.
>
> When someone invents something that they deem to be significant,
> application is made for a patent. In the patent process "claims"
> are made. If the patent office decides that these claims are novel,
> not obvious, and not "prior art" a patent is awarded. At that time
> the claims are made public and the intellectual property is
> protected for a length of time.
>
> At this point outsiders can evaluate the claims in the patent and
> question them. The inventor/patent-holder must then defend their
> claims. Once a patent has been made public the inventor can expect
> questions from the relevant community about his/her work. The old
> playground "because I said so" doesn't suffice. Questions, requests
> for scientific (repeatable) test results can certainly be expected.
> Even the testing process is open to discussion as to its validity.
> This back-and-forth between knowledgeable people is what keeps
> innovation moving. That's all I've seen here in this discussion. I
> haven't seen any "belligerent" prose (well, maybe the 'pigeon poo'
> was a little testy)!
>
> As you know I spent two days with you learning the process and paid
> my $100 to become a licensed Wapin installer. I'm interested in
> _anything_
> that can improve our chosen instrument. That doesn't mean that I
> don't still have questions. Like most in our line of work I always
> want to know how and why something works. These are questions, not
> attacks!
>
> dave
>
> David M. Porritt
> dporritt at smu.edu
>
>
>
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