Hi again Michelle.. Oh, for those studio uprights... Well, I have no shame saying that for the older type of pianos you mention, I use lubricant at friction points of the strings. I use protek that I apply with a 000 artist brush. It doesn't take long and has saved me a lot of broken strings. I just hate it when they fail specially in the tenor... :-( Give the old protek a try, you might like it. Marcel > > Hi Marcel.. > > Hmmm.. no these piano were not Chinese... just your run-of-the-mill > Baldwin Hamiltons, Sohmers, Wurlitzers...you know.... studio > uprights > that haven't been tuned in a kazillion years..nothing like what you > had today.. > > Good news that you got this thing tuned up. > And yeah- I'll bet you gave your anti-perspirant a chance to proove > itself! > > Cheers! > :) > Michelle > > On Jan 9, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Marcel Carey wrote: > > > Hello Michelle, > > > > I just did a chinese import this afternoon. The piano had been > > delivered > > in the crate last may. There were still some kind of paper pattern > > stuck > > to the bass struts and the paper was touching some bass > strings. WOW, > > what a sound. > > > > Now I would like to ask you if the string breakage you > experience is > > with these chinese imports. The reason I ask is that this > particular > > piano scared me. The first tenor strings had so much angle > up from the > > V-bar that they just didn't want to move. I thought of your > post and I > > had a lot of cranking up before the pitch actually started to > > change. I > > didn't measure the angle, but it looked like 30 or more degrees. > > > > I was lucky, nothing broke but the piano was a beast to > bring back to > > pitch and tune. The pins were tight and springy. Not fun but the > > pay is > > good. But it upsets me that some store send pianos in crates with NO > > PREPARATION whatsoever. > > > > Marcel Carey, RPT > > Sherbrooke, QC > > > >> > >> > >> Hi folks- > >> > >> Happy New Year! > >> > >> :D > >> > >> It happens more often than I'd like (and once is enough to be > >> honest) and while I "feel" that it's not my lovely hammer > technique > >> ;) , maybe it's something to do with some sort of "string thing".. > >> > >> Has anyone else run across this? > >> (Or maybe a PTG article I have overlooked?) > >> > >> Upon visiting a fairly new piano and finding it dreadfully > flat (50 > >> cents or more) , I carefully yet quickly, raise it up at > least half > >> of what it was. And I do have a (good?) habit of initially > moving the > >> pin in the flat direction before moving it sharp in order > to loosen > >> any friction from any rust or whatever that may have accumulated. > >> Just a > >> *quick* jerk to the left- nothing serious at all. > >> > >> Now.. having raised the piano up (with a second pass to at > least get > >> it up to pitch) I start doing a "fine tuning". > >> > >> it is either at this second pass or my fine tuning where strings > >> start to break. In the usual places too- nothing out of > the ordinary. > >> > >> (Am I doing "too many tunings" (up to 3 times) to raise this > >> completely up? Seems like that wouldn't be an issue, especially if > >> it's new(er)? Have I introduced some sort of unusual > friction/heat or > >> something?? > >> > >> > >> Now this doesn't happen all of the time, but I am acutely > aware that > >> it could and I wonder if there's something in my technique or my > >> sequence of pitch raising that makes these newer strings break. (I > >> could understand some strings breaking if the piano was older..) > >> > >> I know tuners who on the first go, bring the whole piano > up tp pitch > >> but I've always been a little leary of that. I'm wondering if they > >> also have strings break on their second pass/ fine tuning.. > >> > >> I fully realize that they (the strings) are now at > different spots on > >> all of the contact and termination points so I would assume that > >> would add to the puzzle. And I'd like to also add that it > seems that > >> the tork alone on this 1/2 way-to-pitch, pitch raised piano feels > >> MUCH higher than it did before (and more than "normal") > and I chalk > >> that up to the higher tension I have just introduced. > >> > >> I am a jerk tuner. > >> > >> (Stop laughing :) > >> > >> I would be VERY interested in viewing the number of passes > you folks > >> do to bring a piano up to pitch and whether or not you've > >> experienced this-especially on ones that aren't so old. > >> > >> Hope this post reads OK- and I look forward to your responses! > >> > >> :) > >> Michelle > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >
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