[CAUT] Tuning Hammer tip sizes, was Re: huge pitch raise question

[David Skolnik]

At 02:04 AM 1/12/2007, David Ilvedson wrote:
>#2 is a good all around tip...#3 is too big for me...imho
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>Pacifica, CA  94044


Oh David,
As everyone knows, size isn't everything when it comes to describing 
tuning lever tips. (You're basically right though. #2 could be 
considered a good all-around). I don't think all tuning pins of a 
particular size necessarily share the same head geometry.  My, as yet 
un-upgraded default tuning hammer set up is like Michelle's...extra 
short head (15 degree angle) with #3 tip.  I carry a 2"(?) head and 
extra tips #2 and #4. In my roughly 30 years at this, I don't think I 
would need to take off the other shoe to count the number of times I 
would have used a #1 tip.

I've not done my own study, nor located one that examines the 
congruence of tips and tuning pins, however, I'm sure it's more than 
just my experience that good tip fit can be a compromise situation, 
unless you are working with one type of pin and find a tip that fits 
that pin.  My sense is that, as Michelle says, the larger tip sits 
relatively lower on the pin (ah like) but doesn't hang up when 
removing to next pin.

I would love to know what the ideal, or range of ideal relationships 
between tip and pin would look like.  It seems likely that too 
perfect a fit would be undesirable in that it would function like a 
machine taper and be difficult to separate.   Can anyone point to 
existing literature on the subject or offer their own knowledge on 
the subject of pin and tip manufacture?

David Skolnik
Urtext edition. No emoticons employed.


>-- Original message ----------------------------------------
>From: stranges at oswego.edu
>To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
>Received: 1/11/2007 9:34:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] RE :  huge pitch raise question
>
>
> >Oh Andrew I don't think I've ever done this to anyone here,  but I would
> >like to disagree with you.
> >I find that a #3 tip is truly the way to go. One get's more of the tuning
> >pin inside the channel and for ME, I feel I have a better say in what
> >happens overall. I only resort to a smaller sized tip when I need to.
>
> >My tuning lever has an extra short head and a #3 tip.
> >It's served me well I think!
>
> >:)
>
> >> Michelle,
> >> Try a number one, it will change your style a little but I think you
> >> might like how it really connects you to the pin.
> >>
> >> Andrew Anderson
> >>

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