[CAUT] S&S Key Bushings

[Chris Solliday]

I'm pretty sure it was Skoll!!
not sure that is the spelling
CS
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] S&S Key Bushings


> Thanks Chris,
>
> Glad to hear Eric is not wasting away there! Wish I could have been
there...
>
> I've ordered some VSP and will try it out here in our "laboratory" of 420
pianos.
> If it can prolong bushing life on our practice room pianos (17 hours per
day use) then if will be well worth it because every 3 years or so we
rebush.
>
> As Ric says, Cheers!
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Solliday
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:21 AM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] S&S Key Bushings
>
> Hi Jim,
> Sorry I was out of email shot for ten days. I just got back from Nordisk
> Pianotreff in Esbjerg, Denmark where we had a great time (the Danes were
> wonderful hosts) and got to meet Ric Brekne up close and personal right
down
> to the bottom of the aquavit glass. He's not at all the fire breathing
> dragon we might have imagined from some of his posts. He is, however, a
> formidable piano technician with great attention to detail. We also had a
> fine time with Eric Schandall who is happily married and enjoying life in
> Norway. The pictures of his back porch were particularly idyllic. He is
> thriving and in great spirits. He gave a great class on Henry Steinway
which
> was enjoyed by all.
>  Those were the highlights for me, oh did I mention the pickled fish, the
> cheese and the bier? Yeah they were great too.
> Anyway in my absence VSProfelt seems to have been pretty well discussed.
All
> I can add is that the actual formula (from Bob Marinelli) is secret but
> during a particularly fuzzy moment I was able to get it out of him that
> basically it is formulatred with water, alchohol, soap (or fabric
softener,
> I might be confusing this with an equally fuzzy conference with Wally
Brooks
> and his solution for Abel bushing sizing, but either soap or softener) and
> less than 1% silicon based lubricant. I don't think the small amount of
lube
> will disturb the gluing surface of the wood for future gluings of new
> bushings, nor have I seen any problem to date. Since this technique for
> renewing old bushings with one or two drops of VS and a proper sized cold
> caul left overnight is less than one year old I think that some of the
> clamor over the possible ruining of the wood gluing surface may be
> theoretical "hysteria." Frankly I don't see how one or two drops with only
> less than 1% lube in the mix applied every couple of years can be a
> distinguishable problem given all the other crap people use as lubricants
> and all the  wood destruction that goes on with easing pliers. That is
just
> my opinion of course, but I am sooo happy with the renewing, fitting and
> stabilizing qualities of the VS drop and caul technique that I would have
to
> see some real science to steer me away from using the stuff. I might even
> prefer new buttons in that case anyway.
> That having been said, do I think that a new bushing job from Michael
Morvan
> or other fine keyboard specialists is a better product than this renewing
> with a sizing solution? Unequivocally Yes, but the price and ease of
> procedure would lead me to use sizing solution (whichever one you like)
and
> cold cauls to prolong the life and stablize the material between
> replacements.
> Stay well,
> Chris Solliday
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby at byu.edu>
> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] S&S Key Bushings
>
>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > What is "VSProfelt"? and where is it obtained?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris Solliday
> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:55 PM
> > To: College and University Technicians
> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] S&S Key Bushings
> >
> > I've been having good success with a variety of keybushings by using a
> drop
> > of VSProfelt right on the pin marks and then cold brass cauls overnight.
> > .003-.005 over for front rail and same size or .001 over for the
balance.
> > Chris Solliday
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Page" <jonpage at comcast.net>
> > To: "caut list" <caut at ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 9:08 AM
> > Subject: [CAUT] S&S Key Bushings
> >
> >
> > > Yesterday, I attempted to iron the key bushings on a 10 y/o L.
> > >
> > > The iron softened the glue more than it sized the opening. I
> > > think the bushings actually swelled a bit because as I eased
> > > the keys, I had to manually press the felt.
> > >
> > > There were two b/r felts which required reglueing.  It reminded
> > > me the pre-glued variety.
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jon Page
> >
> >
>
>