I see what you were thinking now. Yes I suppose the glue would have an effect.
I had used the 1/2" plug, I am assuming now, you used the 3/8".
How about putting them in with epoxy?
Were they hard to put in, because you did not have a glue pressure release groove?
John Ross,
Windsor, Nova Scotia
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cramer
To: caut at ptg.org
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] pin-block plugging?
Thanks John,
I think the hole-boring, bit-sizing, feed-rate thing is likely okay, as it's the same regimen we use for boring new blocks and the results are what they need to be.
I think I'm doubting the strength of that thin layer of wood, and the glue joint. maybe I need to let that glue cure for several days?
Anyhow, you've had good success with spot-plugging John? No need to up-pin?
Best regards,
Mark C.
PS Hi Wim, I did try a resin repair on a pin-block back when this was being promoted (maybe in the late 80's?), but haven't since for the reasons you describe.
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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Ross
Sent: April 30, 2009 11:27 AM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] pin-block plugging?
The glue should have nothing to do with a hole being too large.
Bad glue would cause the plug to become loose.
Webb Philips has a glue he sells to put in the plugs.
If you have to use a #2 pin in a hole you say was drilled for a #1, then either you are using the wrong size bit, or your drilling speed is wrong.
I have found Ron Nossaman's double drilling with two different size bits to work well.
John Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Cramer
To: CAUT
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:12 PM
Subject: [CAUT] pin-block plugging?
Now and then I run into a situation where plugging a tuning-pin hole and re-drilling seems like the only option. IOW, neither an over-sized pin, CA glue nor an emery paper shim will work.
I've tackled this fairly carefully, even using a small portable drill press clamped to the keybed to get a precise hole, but I never seem to get a good result:
I've used plugs from both economy blocks and Bolduc blocks. The plugs are a tight fit to the wood, and really have to be driven home. I've used carpenter's glue.
Nonetheless, the results always seem to end up the same. I bore for a 1/0 pin, then end up installing a 2/0, then up-sizing to a 3/0, and often a 4/0!?
Anyone have success with this?
Over the years some of you must've plugged and re-bored entire pin-blocks. What's your secret?
Thanks,
Mark Cramer, RPT
Brandon University
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