I have no problem with Jeff's attitude and I especially like the ad in the program...at least, I am going to start requesting my name be in the program as piano technician. How much does an agent cost?
David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA 94044
----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Porritt, David" <dporritt at mail.smu.edu>
To: caut at ptg.org
Received: 8/21/2009 5:50:28 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Subservience, was CAF
>I haven't really tried this approach but I never thought we'd get more respect for
>our profession by denigrating the pianists ("The ones who become stars do so
>because they have brilliant agents and marketing campaigns") or the ticket buyers
>("the ticket buyers are season ticket holders and just go to the concerts because it
>makes them look well to do in the eyes of other people")
>I have taken short, ill-advised trips to cynical. I just tried to avoid living there.
>dave
>David M. Porritt, RPT
>dporritt at smu.edu
>From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Tanner
>Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:22 PM
>To: caut at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Subservience, was CAF
>My thinking was along the lines of this. When Tiger starts hitting the ball in the
>woods (pun fully intended), he goes to someone who is an expert in the MECHANICS
>of the golf swing and equipment to show him what HE is doing wrong and help HIM
>correct his technique. The expert might also alter the equipment or suggest
>different equipment. But usually, they work on Tiger's technique (at that level, they
>can play about as well with KMart clubs - they just get paid more money not to).
>With pianists and piano coaches, like no other musicians, when it comes to
>mechanics, we essentially have the blind leading the blind. Sometimes it helps to
>have the perspective of the mechanics expert in how the thing functions to explain
>what's going on. And we shouldn't think so lowly of ourselves that our understanding
>of how the piano functions isn't important. (Susan, yes, I've had a very similar
>experience with assisting with pedaling -- how pedaling too slowly will create zings
>and zoinks no matter how good the regulation is)
>The phenomenon we started out describing is action failure, and using the
>assistance of the rest cushion to "correct" it. The more I have contemplated this, I
>have realized that if the cushion is coming into play during repetition at all, ACTION
>FAILURE has already occurred. Raising the cushion does not SOLVE the action
>failure. It is by simple coincidence that the jack can reset at all if the shank is
>bouncing off the cushion at whatever height. My thinking is that a situation like this
>(as rare as Fred has described that it is) is one that the performers should be
>educated on. "If I may explain what's going on mechanically: What you're doing is
>creating something of a false start in the key, and by doing so you are actually
>causing action failure. It may work on some actions and not on others. But by
>raising the cushions, we are not eliminating the action failure. It is still happening.
>This is in some respect a bandaid approach which increases the probability that you
>will be able to repeat the note."
>But along the lines of the "self-deprecating vibe", yes, I hear this subserviant
>attitude way too much from us, which is part of why I responded the way I did.
>Humility is one thing, but subservience is not a healthy attitude. We don't garner
>respect because we don't respect ourselves. And this is most of why CAUT work is
>so poorly compensated. It's a combination of "we're beneath the DMA music faculty
>gods, so we shouldn't make as much as they do, and, besides, the local tooner who
>charges less might get this job if I let them think I should be earning more." CAUTs
>net $125 a day plus some version of health care and retirement benefits instead of
>$400 because we don't respect what we do. So nobody else will either. Fred, it's
>not mutual respect when we don't even respect the value of what we do.
>Ed Sutton wrote:
>"It is not very often that the public buys tickets to hear some unknown player
>perform a tuning by Ed Sutton."
>Actually, Ed, that is exactly what they're doing every time. They just don't think
>about it that way because you haven't let them know you exist. They don't know
>who the player is, they've just read the opinionated reviews (many of these "stars"
>are made by opinion writers who can't play chopsticks). Or, more often, the ticket
>buyers are season ticket holders and just go to the concerts because it makes them
>look well to do in the eyes of other people. These players don't become stars
>because of their talent. There are tons of talented musicians in the world (I was
>floored to find our outstanding faculty member actually paying the record company
>for the privilege of making a record that the record company was going to sell). The
>ones who become stars do so because they have brilliant agents and marketing
>campaigns.
>The audiences don't know these musicians from Adam. But you prepare the piano no
>matter who is playing it. They come to hear your work every time. You are part of
>the TEAM that makes each concert possible. You are a big part of why they buy
>tickets. When this concert is over, YOU get called back before the performer does.
>Why should we should think of ourselves as beneath the performer? Without us, the
>performers can't do what they do. Without our expertise, no matter how much they
>practice, they can't get to where they are unless we've done our work. That's
>actually us making the music when they push those buttons.
>I GUARANTEE YOU, if you placed an ad in the program that says, "The performers
>can do what they do because Ed does what he does" with a nice, professional
>picture, the respect given you would be completely different. Can't you just imagine
>hearing folks walking into the auditorium, and you might hear "I wonder what
>tonight's pianist is going to be able to do with Ed's piano tonight?"
>We have got to have more respect for and pride in what we do.
>Jeff
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Fred Sturm<mailto:fssturm at unm.edu>
>To: caut at ptg.org<mailto:caut at ptg.org>
>Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [CAUT] CAF
>On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Jeff Tanner wrote:
>Geesh, Fred. Should we not look directly into their faces lest their countenance blind
>us? Perhaps piano tuners should wear veils when we go out in public.
>Jeff
>Actually, I think there is a middle ground. I call it mutual respect. But I would also
>say the the piano technician is on the lower side of the equation. We are support
>staff. We are definitely not the star.
>I don't tell the pianist how to play, or not play the piano. The pianist doesn't tell me
>how to do my work. The pianist does point out defects in the piano from his or her
>point of view, and it is my job to address them the best I can. I do not point out
>defects in the pianist's approach to the piano, whether or not I think they are
>present. I may try to explain how the piano action functions in order to establish
>better communication. Or not, depending on the person involved.
>Regards,
>Fred Sturm
>University of New Mexico
>fssturm at unm.edu<mailto:fssturm at unm.edu>
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