Russell Schmidt - Piano Technician UK School of Music
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Rebuilds. (Richard Brekne)
2. Just Intonation tonight (reggaepass at aol.com)
3. Re: Just Intonation tonight (David Skolnik)
4. Re: Just Intonation tonight (Jon Page)
5. Re: Just Intonation tonight (Jon Page)
6. Re: Just Intonation tonight (reggaepass at aol.com)
7. Re: Just Intonation tonight (reggaepass at aol.com)
8. VSProfelt vs alcohol/water/softener vs steam (Fred Sturm)
9. keybushing steaming (Fred Sturm)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:51:50 +0100
From: Richard Brekne <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Rebuilds.
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Just in over the buzz beam...if its true then it looks like you guys may
be getting your big break.
1. Renner Germany is down to 2 days a week production
2. Seiler after being taken over by Samick will most likely not survive.
3. Schimmel is on the brink.
4. Petrof has started to manufacture furniture to keep its workers busy.
5. Steinberg is operating at a loss they figure is less expensive then
not working a full week.
6. Steinway and Sons is cutting production and the NY factory is at 3
weeks out of a month.
Much of this because of the spreading ripple effect of the deepening
financial crisis. If worse comes to worst... we may be in for a major
shake-up in the not to distant future. Seems to me this will last for
only a limited period of time before some new piano god takes over and
the status quo restored to its normality. As Ed pointed out... and I
agree with. People will be people (to paraphrase). Pianists seem to
need that crutch the aura of mystic splendor however false the reigning
equivilant of Steinway gives them.
In anycase... if S&S does end up biting the dust along with some of
these others... the door is wide open for those with the resources to go
through and exploit the situation.
I wonder how easy it will be tho to produce some of the high end custom
stuff we hear talk about on a level beyond a few pianos each year ?
Running a small shop is one thing... pumping out enough pianos to
compete in the larger market place is another. It will be for sure and
interesting ride.
Cheers
RicB
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:05:04 -0400
From: reggaepass at aol.com
Subject: [CAUT] Just Intonation tonight
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List,
If you would like to see and hear Ben Johnston's "Suite for Microtonal Piano" performed live tonight at 8 PM (Pacific time), go to www.music.CalArts.edu/ROD for a webcam broadcast. ?
Alan Eder?
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:36:26 -0400
From: David Skolnik <davidskolnik at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Just Intonation tonight
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Alan -
Nothing comes up on that link yet. http://www.music.calarts.edu/ROD
Are you sure it's correct and that it will
work? I assume ROD stands for Radio On Demand, no?
David Skolnik
At 05:05 PM 3/11/2009, you wrote:
>List,
>
>If you would like to see and hear Ben Johnston's
>"Suite for Microtonal Piano" performed live
>tonight at 8 PM (Pacific time), go to
>www.music.CalArts.edu/ROD for a webcam broadcast. ?
>
>Alan Eder?
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:11:37 -0400
From: Jon Page <jonpage at comcast.net>
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>Nothing comes up on that link yet. http://www.music.calarts.edu/ROD
>
> Are you sure it's correct and that it will
>work? I assume ROD stands for Radio On Demand, no?
It's working for me right now.
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Jon Page
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:15:02 -0400
From: Jon Page <jonpage at comcast.net>
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It's hard to believe that he's reading a score.
How do you know if he makes a mistake?
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Jon Page
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:42:05 -0400
From: reggaepass at aol.com
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David,
Sorry about that and thanks for your interest.? That was what I was told to give as the link.? I should have tried it first.
Alan
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From: David Skolnik <davidskolnik at optonline.net>
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Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Just Intonation tonight
Alan -
Nothing comes up on that link yet.?? http://www.music.calarts.edu/ROD
?Are you sure it's correct and that it will work?? I assume ROD stands for Radio On Demand, no?
David Skolnik
At 05:05 PM 3/11/2009, you wrote:
List,
If you would like to see and hear Ben Johnston's "Suite for Microtonal Piano" performed live tonight at 8 PM (Pacific time), go to www.music.CalArts.edu/ROD for a webcam broadcast. ?
Alan Eder?
Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession.
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:46:40 -0400
From: reggaepass at aol.com
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btw, ROD stand for "Roy O. Disney", the patron saint of our recital hall.
Alan Eder
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From: Jon Page <jonpage at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [CAUT] Just Intonation tonight
Nothing comes up on that link yet.?? http://www.music.calarts.edu/ROD
? Are you sure it's correct and that it will
work?? I assume ROD stands for Radio On Demand, no?
It's working for me right now.
--
Regards,
Jon Page
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:07:31 -0600
From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
Subject: [CAUT] VSProfelt vs alcohol/water/softener vs steam
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I finally found the opportunity to do a comparison of VSProfelt with
an emulated mixture of alcohol, water, and fabric softener. I did
wippen cushions and key bushings on an upright. For the key bushings,
I also did a comparison with my usual steam method.
My emulated mixture was approximately 12% softener, 18% alcohol, and
70% water (the figures are a result of adding to a 5 mm line for
softener, 15 mm with 70% isolpropyl alcohol, and 40 with water - those
lines being cumulative. This was not utterly precise, just a
convenient guess, and then I did the calculations of percentage). I
think the VSProfelt is actually lower in alcohol and higher in
softener, and it also has silicon oil added in some formulation. VSP
is milkier looking than what I made, and it doesn't wick quite as fast
into the felt - hence my guess about more softener and less alcohol.
Results? A tie. VSP works quite nicely. So does a mix of alcohol,
water and softener. I couldn't tell any difference in the results
whatsoever, other than the lubricant in VSP.
The tie was between VSP and my emulation solution. Steam was
significantly faster, and slightly more effective - key bushings only
in this case. I think the more effective part came from the steam re-
expanding the wood where it might have been squeezed/eased previously.
For the bushings I had the keys in two Spurlock clamps. I applied the
liquids using a tapered, pointed paintbrush (in preference to a hypo
oiler, that takes longer because of the need to apply to each side
separately). I did one key clamp with liquids, the other with steam.
For the liquids, I alternated between sharps and naturals for the
different solutions, changing the alternation when I changed from
balance to front rail. The full steaming and ironing process took
considerably less time than applying the liquids and inserting the
cauls.
I'll send a separate post following with photos of the steam process.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
University of New Mexico
fssturm at unm.edu
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:19:00 -0600
From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
Subject: [CAUT] keybushing steaming
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These three photos show the steamer I now use, which is a Conair
product I bought at Target for between $30-35. It is nice in that it
covers both sharps and naturals simultaneously, and also covers six or
seven keys at a time. I move it slowly over one keyclamp worth of one
rail, about one second per bushing, then do that again. The follow
immediately with the temperature controlled bushing iron. The iron is
dipped in and out very rapidly the first time, then followed with a
second run through a little slower (still less than a second the
second time). I insert a corner of the heated caul into the center of
the bushing as the initial move, to avoid the possibility of pressing
the bushing out of alignment - but usually the steam hasn't been
enough to soften glue, just enough to swell the fibers. If the
bushings haven't been lubricated before, I run powdered teflon in them
with a pipecleaner prior to the second use of the iron.
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