[CAUT] Repair of 1961 Baldwin L Music Desk

Allan Schumacker Allan.Schumacker at ncc.edu
Fri Oct 2 13:02:02 MDT 2009


I agree that almost all current case parts are of a different  
design.  For 1970's vintage Baldwin M and L models, I haven't had any  
problem with replacement music desks or music desk hinges obtained  
from Baldwin. Music desk hinges obtained from Baldwin within the past  
2-3 years have been identical to the original parts.

I can't speak for the parts that are in current production, so  
checking ahead before ordering wouldn't be a bad idea. Even if you  
can't reach anyone at Baldwin,  you should be able to tell about the  
hinges by looking at a new Baldwin Artist Grand piano.

-Allan

Allan N. Schumacker, RPT
Adjunct Professional Faculty
Department of Music
Nassau Community College
Garden City, New York.


On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Jeff Tanner wrote:

> About 2 years ago, my contacts at the Baldwin parts department told  
> me that current parts are a slightly different design. So, you need  
> to check on that before you order.  But up until then, I was  
> ordering parts directly from Baldwin.  (I don't know of a  
> dealership in South Carolina or even within a 3 hour drive of  
> here.)  I'm sorry, but I don't have those names anymore. But you  
> should be able to go through Baldwin to find out.  See if this  
> still works: 1-800-444-2766
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allan Schumacker
> To: caut at ptg.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Repair of 1961 Baldwin L Music Desk
>
> Paul,
>
> Baldwin parts are obtainable through your local authorized Baldwin  
> piano dealership. They have to order the parts for you from  
> Baldwin. The parts are available. Baldwin/Gibson, in  their  
> infinite wisdom, will not sell parts directly to individual  
> technicians. You probably have to purchase  an entire hinge  
> assembly to get the brass sleeve you need. Be  sure to specify  
> which side hinge you need. How quickly the dealership can get the  
> parts for you is a different matter, but parts can be purchased.
>
> Alternatively, I think that if you purchase a new music desk, the  
> desk comes with the brass sleeve already installed. Very little  
> woodworking skill is needed. Just make sure the hinge screws are  
> tight. The desk can be purchased with a finish on it (at least the  
> ebony ones can)
>
>  If you would prefer to repair the wood rather than replace the  
> music desk,  I would  suggest leveling out the damaged area using a  
> router mounted to a router table, or a sharp chisel and glue a new  
> piece of hard wood (maple or poplar) on to the music desk. Having  
> removed the damaged wood on the music desk and made it level, you  
> now will have a clean surface to make a strong glue joint. The new  
> piece of hard wood should be slightly oversized so you can trim it  
> down to the exact size with a chisel or a small plane. You'll have  
> to re-drill the hole for the hinge on the side, but that isn't  
> hard. Thin strips of hardwood can be purchased from Woodcraft.com.
>
> Any gaps between the edge of original veneer and  the edge of your  
> graft, can be filled in with wood filler, and the area can be  
> painted black with a can of black spray lacquer - assuming that the  
> piano is  black to begin with.
>
> When you install the hinges for the music desk, be certain that the  
> screws have some  good wood to bite in to so that the hinges will  
> be held securely in place.  It is when the screws loosen up, the  
> hinges wobble. Then some pianist comes along with a large music  
> book and leans on the music desk,  and that causes the wood to  
> split. Keep those hinge screws tight and you won't have a problem.
>
>
> Good  luck.
>
> Allan N. Schumacker, RPT
> Adjunct Professional Faculty
> Department of Music
> Nassau Community College
> Garden City, New York.
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Paul Milesi wrote:
>
>> I am in need of suggestions to effect a repair on a 1961 Baldwin L  
>> Music Desk.
>>
>> Each side of the upright desk portion has a little brass(?) tube  
>> inserted into the wood.  These interface with a little tab on the  
>> bracket mounted on the desk frame.  My problem is this: The desk  
>> in question has had the wood broken out on one side, and the  
>> little brass tube is missing.  Another technician made a repair  
>> with epoxy at some point, leaving just a hole without the tubing,  
>> but it’s not holding now.  I’ve been to Home Depot looking for a  
>> similar brass tube I could cut, but couldn’t find anything of the  
>> right diameter.  It is my understanding that there is no place to  
>> obtain Baldwin parts, i.e., no tech support for Baldwin.  Is that  
>> correct?  I can’t find any on the Gibson website, and the one  
>> dealer tech I called in NJ never returned my call.
>>
>> I don’t have a large shop or a whole lot of woodworking experience/ 
>> skill, but would like to effect a nice, clean repair — either one  
>> that follows the original design, or perhaps two hinges somehow  
>> that will permit the desk to open and close, as some pianos have.   
>> Myabe I could use a couple small hinges from Schaff?  Would I have  
>> to chisel out to sink them?  The piano case is not in great shape,  
>> so I’m not too, too worried about a fine finished appearance, but  
>> I always do “clean” work.
>>
>> All help appreciated!  Thanks!
>>
>> Paul
>> -- 
>> Paul Milesi, RPT
>> Howard University Department of Music
>> Washington, DC
>> University:  (202) 806-4565
>> Home:  (202) 667-3136
>> Cell:  (202) 246-3136
>> E-mail:  paul at pmpiano.com
>> Website:  http://www.pmpiano.com
>
>

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