[CAUT] loan programs

Mark Cramer cramer at brandonu.ca
Sat Apr 3 12:02:34 MDT 2010


The contract was with the manufacturer James, though the obligations are 
interwoven with the sponsoring dealer.

Mark C.

On 01/04/2010 6:00 PM, James Schmitt wrote:
> Mark-   Just a question,  were the programs through a manufacturer or 
> with a single piano store.  I guess that I need to be more specific in 
> saying that will only do a program through a local piano store.
> James Schmitt-Marylhurst U
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Mark Cramer wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> these terms sound identical to those offered by (the) two major 
>> manufacturers offering loaner programs in past. The program we were 
>> involved with was beneficial overall, while others have found their 
>> experience less so.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I'm not sure either of these two companies still offer 
>> the loan program, as a result of recent economics. Unfortunate, if 
>> so, as IMHO there is still a/ need,/ and with it plenty of 
>> "opportunities," as you mention.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Mark Cramer, RPT
>> Brandon University
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/04/2010 1:36 PM, James Schmitt wrote:
>>> dear Dr.Nicolaides,
>>>   Here is what needs to be in place for me to support one of my 
>>> universities starting a loan program
>>> 1.  There needs to a local dealer that will loan the pianos apart 
>>> from a manufacturer program.  I have found that the post sale 
>>> support for those purchasing and the quality of the pianos loaned is 
>>> much better and more flexible.
>>> 2.  The school needs to be willing to support a sale with a strong 
>>> mailing list not just a token list.
>>> 3.  The dealer needs to have a policy for sharing profits from the 
>>> sale so that there is a real way for the school to purchase pianos 
>>> and eventually have a strong fleet of there own instruments.  At two 
>>> of my universities both schools have purchased nice pianos without 
>>> using any of the university resources.
>>> 4.  The school needs to support the sale being held at the dealers 
>>> store.  so that all the dealers resources can be available for the sale.
>>> 5. service of the loaned pianos can be paid for by the dealer with a 
>>> refund of the money spent for service coming from profits of the sale.
>>>   The above points are making these programs work for both the 
>>> school and the dealer.
>>>
>>> James Schmitt
>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Dr. Henry Nicolaides wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think loan programs are common with other industries and 
>>>> manufacturers.  This gives them an opportunity to expose their 
>>>> product to a target audience and is considered a long term 
>>>> marketing strategy.  It benefits the college as well as the 
>>>> manufacturer.  Problems are encountered when the college depends 
>>>> too much on loans and does not have enough of their own inventory. 
>>>> *I for one would be interested in what you have learned. * Though 
>>>> we have a good inventory of studio and performance pianos our 
>>>> practice rooms are sadly in need of replacement pianos.  Not that 
>>>> all of the studio pianos are new, some needing rebuilding, they are 
>>>> keepers.  Budgets being what they are, if you are fortunate to have 
>>>> a budget, loaner programs serve a useful purpose.
>>>>
>>>> Henry Nicolaides
>>>> Piano Technician, School of Music
>>>> Southern Illinois University
>>>>
>>>> > From: pianotenor at comcast.net <mailto:pianotenor at comcast.net>
>>>> > To: caut at ptg.org <mailto:caut at ptg.org>
>>>> > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:16:18 -0700
>>>> > Subject: [CAUT] loan programs
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> > I am the new kid on the block and understand you have done a fair
>>>> > bit of talking about the subject of loan programs. If anyone is
>>>> > interested I would be happy to let you know what I have learned that
>>>> > is making two significant programs work for two Universities I serve.
>>>> > But it may be that everyone is tired of the subject. Anyone 
>>>> interested?
>>>> > James Schmitt
>>>> > Service tech for University of Portland
>>>>
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