I very much njoy setting a temperament, then tweaking it to make it sound the very est I can. I like your wording, "interplay of intervals." I like uning octaves and unisons and the checks used in octave tuning. I like hat the piano sounds like when I'm finished. Susan and Ed This is where I think you two might have the wrong impression of what an ETD can do for you. First of all, as has been cited, for a pitch raise, these things are invaluable. Using the the machine leaves the piano almost exactly on pitch, (if you do it right). On a regular tuning, using an ETD puts 99% of the piano right where it should be. What is left, is exactly what you like to do. You can interplay with all the intervals, and I would go out on a limb and say that it actually allow you to be an even better tuning than you are now. I use my SAT to tune the whole piano. Then I turn it off, and tune the whole piano again, aurally. I tweak every interval. When I get done, I really like the piano when I'm finished, because I've put my personal touch to it. As far as the blinking lights are concerned, well, yes, Susan, I guess they can be a little bit of a distraction. But, as you said, to each his/her own. Wim -----Original Message----- From: Elwood Doss <edoss at utm.edu> To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 5:50 pm Subject: Re: [CAUT] [SPAM] Re: using as ETD, was Re: Too tall!!?? Hi Susan, 'm with you all the way. It amazes me how many technicians who use the TDs try to convince us aural tuners how wonderful they are. I tune urally because I want to. Not because I'm afraid of technology, Wim. ts because I am enthralled with being able to begin with one pitch and une the whole piano just using my ears and my intellect. I very much njoy setting a temperament, then tweaking it to make it sound the very est I can. I like your wording, "interplay of intervals." I like uning octaves and unisons and the checks used in octave tuning. I like hat the piano sounds like when I'm finished. I don't care whether it's Steinway D used on a concert stage or a Henry F. Miller spinet that is o be played by a beginning piano student. I put just as much effort in uning one as the other. I like to listen to the finished product and ealize that, starting from a single pitch source, I tuned that. e...just me. No ETD, just me. If I started tuning at A1 and tuned up he chromatic scales to C88 using an ETD, then this shear joy would ecome work...drudgery...I don't care how fast I could tune it or how relaxed" I might be at the end of the day. I'm sure there are plenty f piano technicians out there just like us, Susan. May our tribe ncrease! Oh, and Wim, am I afraid of technology? Well, let's see, I use a anderson Accu-Fork to get my A=440 pitch and to check how sharp or flat he piano is. Keeps me from having to have 3 hands. Nice technology! Joy! lwood Elwood Doss, Jr., M.Mus.Ed., RPT iano Technician/Technical Director epartment of Music 55 Clement Hall he University of Tennessee at Martin artin, TN 38238 31/881-1852 AX: 731/881-7415 OME: 731/587-5700 ----Original Message----- rom: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of usan Kline ent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:59 PM o: caut at ptg.org ubject: [SPAM] Re: [CAUT] using as ETD, was Re: Too tall!!?? mportance: Low To each his own, Wim. It's true I haven't tried using an ETD myself, but I've watched uning with one. It didn't look tempting to me. And I hate blinky lights and twitching little readouts. I sometimes ven turn off overhead fluorescent lights because they bother me. But mainly, I like the direct contact with the piano, and the interplay f intervals. I just like the sounds. Anyway, enjoy your SAT IV. Susan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20100412/85052b4d/attachment.htm>
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