[CAUT] Piano Mechanics class

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Mon Jan 11 15:35:37 MST 2010


Jim, that is what I do, and, no surprise, they freak out just getting 
unisons in a good place.  Then, I pound them...no problem, since a 
majority of them took the tuning pin and severely dropped or sharpened the 
string so they could "hear" the beats...or lots of beats!!! Then...there's 
the time to fix the problem they created....
Paul




From:
Jim Busby <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To:
David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>, "caut at ptg.org" <caut at ptg.org>
Date:
01/11/2010 02:27 PM
Subject:
Re: [CAUT] Piano Mechanics class



I used to think so too, but this can be where you can "weed out" many. Use 
it! We only teach unisons at first. Some will not have the patience nor 
ear to get past this. Some 20% will say "Whoa! This is too hard. I can't 
do this!" etc. You'll do them a favor. 

About another 20% will think they have a good ear, but won't have the 
determination to stick it out. They will just stop attending. "Bye! No 
hard feelings." The cream will slowly come to the top, and from these we 
choose candidates for our student employees. But I would teach unison 
tuning BEFORE they buy anything. When they spend 10 minutes and still 
can't get a solid unison they will start looking inward. Some MAY nail it 
sooner and think they're hot stuff! Just give it a good hard blow and 
deflate the note, and their ego. "Well, look at that! Do you have the 
patience to spend the months it will take to get 230 strings dead-on AND 
stable?" We definitely leave this in, after 9 years of doing this.

I don't want to sound like a jerk here, but helping guide people OUT of 
this field is nearly as important as finding those who will do well to 
pursue it. IMO.


Jim Busby BYU




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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
David Ilvedson
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:54 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Piano Mechanics class

I'd drop the tuning. 

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Paul T Williams" <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
To: caut at ptg.org
Received: 1/11/2010 11:21:05 AM
Subject: [CAUT] Piano Mechanics class


>Hi All,

>I'm wondering of your CAUTers that teach a basic piano mechanics class on 

>how many students you usually have.  This year, I have 6 signed up.  The 
>most I've ever had at once, and I'm wondering how to keep all 12 hands 
>busy at the same time.

>I don't lecture in front of the classroom a lot, but rather, do a lot of 
>hands-on teaching while explaining what I'm doing and then have them do 
>it.  Two years ago, I had 4, which was sort of chaotic for me.  I really 
>like 2 or 3, but 6!!?? The tuning basics was the hardest to monitor.

>I've developed a good plan of topics for them to learn and two "projects" 

>they will be working on is a Yamaha U-1 for the first few weeks after 
>teaching nomenclature, piano care, basic action functions and regulating 
>on models. After the Yam, one of the grands from a practice room that's 
>coming back with a new soundboard in a month or two.

>Since this class only meets for an hour twice a week, I won't be able to 
>get really detailed on just one aspect of tuning, regulating, or 
>repairs/rebuilding, but I want to touch on as much as I can.

>Am I making this too "cluttered"? I would like your input as to focusing 
>on fewer topics, cover a spread of everything on the table, or something 
>in between.

>Thanks!

>Paul


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