Wim, Just to be clear (I made the point in my post a moment ago).....The universities aren't getting the message. They don't get it because the PTG isn't willing to spend any money on this. The PTG isn't interested in spending money to educate university administration. CAUTs should be willing to augment their dues in order to support the concerns Jeff has raised, and only AFTER a CAUT Endorsement is passed showing we actually care about having RPTs properly trained for basic university piano service. Regards, Bill Bill Referring to my other post, how much money are we talking about to send this information to 6-10 schools a year? Can this money either be taken out of the current budget, or would it be possible to ask for a line item increase in the CAUT budget to cover this expense? Wim -----Original Message----- From: Bdshull at aol.com To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 2:52 pm Subject: Re: [CAUT] Preaching to the choir; was University of Idaho Piano Tech Vacancy Wim, Just to be clear (I made the point in my post a moment ago).....The universities aren't getting the message. They don't get it because the PTG isn't willing to spend any money on this. The PTG isn't interested in spending money to educate university administration. CAUTs should be willing to augment their dues in order to support the concerns Jeff has raised, and only AFTER a CAUT Endorsement is passed showing we actually care about having RPTs properly trained for basic university piano service. Regards, Bill BIll Shull, RPT, M.Mus. CAUT Committee Member La Sierra University In a message dated 5/8/2010 11:37:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tnrwim at aol.com writes: Actually, Wim, no I'm not preaching to the choir. I'm preaching to the PTG, which is basically enabling the problem by not taking some sort of stance. Jeff Jeff Yes, it is a PTG problem, and we have taken a stance. But the low pay, high expectations, low requirements, etc., is't going to change overnight. CAUT has established criteria, guidelines, work load, pay recommendations, etc., and sent them to department chairs. But we have no control over what they do with the information. Jeff, it seems that every time a new university job comes up that isn't offering the salary package that's adequate, you get on this list and repeat the same message. When I said you're preaching to the choir, I meant to say that we've all heard the arguments. We agree with you, but please, tell us something we don't know. Otherwise, give it a rest. Wim -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Tanner <tannertuner at bellsouth.net> To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 5:38 am Subject: Re: [CAUT] Preaching to the choir; was University of Idaho Piano Tech Vacancy Wim wrote: Jeff While I agree with everything you're saying, your preaching to the choir. These comments need to be shared with the university, not us. Wim While I agree with everything you're saying, your preaching to the choir. These comments need to be shared with the university, not us. Wim Actually, Wim, no I'm not preaching to the choir. I'm preaching to the PTG, which is basically enabling the problem by not taking some sort of stance. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20100508/311d3feb/attachment-0001.htm>
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