[CAUT] Pure Sound Wire

[Zeno Wood]

Although, those three notes are a pain to restring, given that they're under
the bass strings and have to be hitched in that "golden pond" area.


On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Ed Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com> wrote:

>  Paul-
>
> When the M was strung with standard piano wire, it had no broken strings
> after 75 years.
> When it was strung with Pure Sound, high treble strings broke
> spontaneously, ping-in-the-middle-of-the-night.
> I think the appropriate use of Pure Sound is in low tensioned, 19th century
> instruments. I have had good success in that application.
>
> Pure Sound is prone to break at the becket, and at the back of the
> hitchpin. When you bend it back and forth, you can feel that it is much
> softer than standard piano wire.
>
> In instruments where the lowest tenor notes are short scaled (low tension),
> it might be an alternative to wound strings.
> You could try Pure Sound on the first three lowest plain wire notes of the
> B. It will probably make tuning easier, and if they break, you've only got
> three notes to restring.
>
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
> *To:* caut at ptg.org
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 8:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Pure Sound Wire
>
> Fred,
>
> Curious, as I'm planning on doing this same project on a early 80's B this
> summer, what year was this piano of yours?  Thankfully, (Thank you, Richard
> West), the action was de-tefloned before my starting here and I replaced the
> hammers last year, but still many broken strings on the capo area. I want to
> nip this one in the bud. I replace at least one string every other week in
> this piano professor's studio.  They might lessen, just because the main
> piano pounder was an energetic GTA who's now graduated!
>
> Richard put forth another issue that some of you might know more
> about...that the plate was origianally located poorly. How much would this
> problem affect string breakage? Could it also affect that strange sound from
> F2 that happens on all of our 70's and 80's Steinway B's?
>
> Best,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>   From:
> Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
> To: Ed  Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com>, caut at ptg.org Date: 05/09/2010 09:02
> PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Pure Sound Wire
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> On May 9, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Ed Sutton wrote:
>
> A few years ago Pure Sound wire was being promoted as suitable for use on S
> & S M pianos.
> Has anyone tried it?
> Have you had breakage problems?
> Thank you.
>
> Ed Sutton
>
> I experimented with Pure Sound on a B a couple summers ago (piano in a
> classroom). I will be restringing the treble sections (capo) this summer.
> Far, far too much breakage. Tenor is great, and does sound noticeably better
> (well, it's subtle, but better - clarity and sustain, as well as a better
> inharmonicity match, and F2 area tunes much more easily). But the breakage
> in the capo section has been nearly 50%, compared to maybe as much as 5%
> (mostly much less) in pianos with standard wire. No broken strings (so far)
> in the tenor (up to C#5).
> I should note that I did use the extra strong wire as recommended as well
> as recommended scaling.
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
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