! On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Ed Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com> wrote: > Zeno- > Go to a good hardware or hobby shop and get two lengths of 1/8" copper or > brass tubing, about 3 feet long. > Tape them together, side by side. Cut and bend the wire and slide it into > the tubes. The tubes slip under the bass strings and deliver the bend to the > hitch pin on the first try. > Ed S. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Zeno Wood <zeno.wood at gmail.com> > *To:* caut at ptg.org > *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 10:03 AM > *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Pure Sound Wire > > Although, those three notes are a pain to restring, given that they're > under the bass strings and have to be hitched in that "golden pond" area. > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Ed Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com> wrote: > >> Paul- >> >> When the M was strung with standard piano wire, it had no broken strings >> after 75 years. >> When it was strung with Pure Sound, high treble strings broke >> spontaneously, ping-in-the-middle-of-the-night. >> I think the appropriate use of Pure Sound is in low tensioned, 19th >> century instruments. I have had good success in that application. >> >> Pure Sound is prone to break at the becket, and at the back of the >> hitchpin. When you bend it back and forth, you can feel that it is much >> softer than standard piano wire. >> >> In instruments where the lowest tenor notes are short scaled (low >> tension), it might be an alternative to wound strings. >> You could try Pure Sound on the first three lowest plain wire notes of the >> B. It will probably make tuning easier, and if they break, you've only got >> three notes to restring. >> >> Ed >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> >> *To:* caut at ptg.org >> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 8:46 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [CAUT] Pure Sound Wire >> >> Fred, >> >> Curious, as I'm planning on doing this same project on a early 80's B this >> summer, what year was this piano of yours? Thankfully, (Thank you, Richard >> West), the action was de-tefloned before my starting here and I replaced the >> hammers last year, but still many broken strings on the capo area. I want to >> nip this one in the bud. I replace at least one string every other week in >> this piano professor's studio. They might lessen, just because the main >> piano pounder was an energetic GTA who's now graduated! >> >> Richard put forth another issue that some of you might know more >> about...that the plate was origianally located poorly. How much would this >> problem affect string breakage? Could it also affect that strange sound from >> F2 that happens on all of our 70's and 80's Steinway B's? >> >> Best, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> From: >> Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> >> To: Ed Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com>, caut at ptg.org Date: 05/09/2010 >> 09:02 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Pure Sound Wire >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> On May 9, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Ed Sutton wrote: >> >> A few years ago Pure Sound wire was being promoted as suitable for use on >> S & S M pianos. >> Has anyone tried it? >> Have you had breakage problems? >> Thank you. >> >> Ed Sutton >> >> I experimented with Pure Sound on a B a couple summers ago (piano in a >> classroom). I will be restringing the treble sections (capo) this summer. >> Far, far too much breakage. Tenor is great, and does sound noticeably better >> (well, it's subtle, but better - clarity and sustain, as well as a better >> inharmonicity match, and F2 area tunes much more easily). But the breakage >> in the capo section has been nearly 50%, compared to maybe as much as 5% >> (mostly much less) in pianos with standard wire. No broken strings (so far) >> in the tenor (up to C#5). >> I should note that I did use the extra strong wire as recommended as well >> as recommended scaling. >> Regards, >> Fred Sturm >> *fssturm at unm.edu* <fssturm at unm.edu> >> *http://www.createculture.org/profile/FredSturm*<http://www.createculture.org/profile/FredSturm> >> *http://www.youtube.com/fredsturm* <http://www.youtube.com/fredsturm> >> *http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/FredSturm*<http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/FredSturm> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20100510/73b01e1f/attachment.htm>
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