This guestion may become moot shortly when the new PTG web server comes on line.
Ed Sutton
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From: Paul T Williams
To: caut at ptg.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Daily Digests
Sorry, Harry, but when I ask a question, I'm looking for advise as soon as it's available. many times I ask for something, then get it within an hour or two. To wait until the next day might be detrimental in my work for 110 pianos I care for. I need this information as soon as I can get it. To try to save the university bucks, I try not to make a dozen long distance calls. The phone-tag thing gets old really fast, and the list is much faster IMHO.
Sometimes, of course, my topics warp into something else, close to, but not related to my question, but there are always tid-bits of info to add into my situation. (THANKS GUYS!!)
I'm not in favor at all of getting a single daily digest of posts. Time moves so fast and questions need to be answered as soon as they're available, and this seems to be the way to go. I'm not going to start texting stuff, my fingers are just too busy, and I enjoy the banter back and forth on the various topics It's like a chapter meeting all the time with the best brains in the business, where I can actually learn something. Then, in a couple hours, can go out and do such great things and be a better technician!
My 2 cents. (BTW: it's really helping on the Steinway D with the new hammers currently in question....they're improving! I won't expand on this note....Ask me if you wish)
Thanks
Paul
From: "Reed, Harry -61" <Harry.Reed at schmittmusic.com>
To: <caut at ptg.org>
Date: 02/16/2011 02:21 PM
Subject: [CAUT] Daily Digests
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I too would prefer a single daily digest for CAUT and Pianotech.
Anyone else?
Harry Reed
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1. Re: Rinsing lacquer from hammers (Fred Sturm)
2. Why isn't the CAUT digest a daily digest? (Greg Graham)
3. Re: Steinway "sound" (Jim Busby)
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:33:40 -0700
From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu>
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Rinsing lacquer from hammers
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On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:43 PM, David Love wrote:
> Given the structure of the fibers that we see here in these various
> photographs one wonders whether this method tended to leave the bulk
> of the solids content within the fiber and remove the residual content
> that might collect outside the fibers.
Interesting. In any case, if solvents can get solids inside the
fibers, they can presumably get them out again. That is to say, it isn't
black and white, that soaking only would remove the surface solids and
would leave the "absorbed" solids untouched. So soaking would probably
remove a good portion of both surface and inner solids.
The likelihood of getting it all out would be lower, though, for the
scenario of solids inside.
Regards,
Fred Sturm
fssturm at unm.edu
http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/FredSturm
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:48:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg Graham <grahampianos at yahoo.com>
To: CAUT at ptg.org
Subject: [CAUT] Why isn't the CAUT digest a daily digest?
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Most lists to which I subscribe issue a "daily digest" with one email
per day.?
Lately, the CAUT list sends dozens of "digests" per day.? This day is
not yet over, and I've received 16.?
Is it supposed to work that way??
Greg Graham
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:00:46 -0700
From: Jim Busby <jim_busby at byu.edu>
To: "caut at ptg.org" <caut at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway "sound"
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David,
I think the bellies. In voicing class, and in the other 3 classes we
also had 4 different pianos and got to tweak them, try different things,
and they were a mixed bag. IOW, if it wasn?t the belly and just the
hammers you could technically make them all sound about the same using
the same voicing techniques, right? No way here, IMO. They were
different beasts. I wish I had your rebuilding chops and could give a
better answer.
Jim Busby
From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
David Love
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 9:01 PM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Steinway "sound"
Jim:
The other question I meant to ask is with respect to the experiences you
had at the factory. Do you think the differences in the B?s were owing
to differences in the bellies themselves or just differences in the
amount of prep work given to the D?s over the B?s? Recently a batch of
new B?s were delivered to Stanford and before they were dispersed to the
various rooms around I had chance to go through them side by side.
There were a lot more similarities than differences to me. Some
differences could be accounted for by hammer density alone, you could
tell. And some other differences were sectional, some killer octaves
were better than others and there were a few odd clunker notes here and
there but they seemed to be mostly termination problems. Tenor and bass
sections were very much alike. I don?t think I sat down to any one of
them and said, wow now that?s different, though I had my favorites.
David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com
I?ve been in the selection room in NY and the tone was all over the
place with Bs but not quite as much with Ds, in my opinion. What I was
hinting at is our worn out question; don?t Ds in concert halls, as well
as the Steinway C&A Ds have a certain characteristic tone that is
?Steinway?? I agree with what you said below that we have the ability to
reproduce it (last sentence below) but nearly all the rebuilds I?ve
heard are not like Steinway. Nor do they try to be. That?s why (I think)
Brent made his statements. Not in disrespect to anyone, but who might
better duplicate the ?Steinway sound? if there is such an animal, than
Steinway? Now I?ll bow out and let all the retorts fly. <G>
Best,
Jim
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